View Full Version : Autopilot speed hold
01-01-2002, 09:13 PM
Do any of you Autopilot Wizzards know of a FIX for the Speed Hold Switch not going off when you hit F1 to kill the Power. I
can't land with full power on. It also stays on after hitting Z to shut off the Autopilot. FS2000 didn't do this. Make or lead me to a fix PLEASE.X(
01-01-2002, 09:23 PM
Yea, Shut off the auto-throttles before you try to adjust throttle.. You can't have it both ways, either the auto-pilot is running the throttles, or you are.
01-02-2002, 02:45 PM
fs2000 with AP on shut off all power when F1 hit.
fs2002 with AP on does not shut off power when F1 hit. Even hitting "Z" shuts off AP but not Speed Hold which has to be clicked on AP, or ctrl R hit.
I want 2002 AP to work like 2000 AP. Why not?
01-02-2002, 02:49 PM
In case you hadn't noticed, this is FS2002, not FS2000. In
FS2002, if you want to disconnect the autothrottles, you must
move the "autothrottle" switch to "off". It works independently
of the autopilot which I believe, is like they do it in the real
Thats correct! Pilots have to turn off the autothrottle. They don't have an F1 key in the cockpit... do they! 'As real as it gets!'
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01-02-2002, 03:22 PM
In the real world, how hard is it to move the flight controls and throttles whilst auto pilot/throttle is turned on?
01-02-2002, 07:28 PM
Click on the tips icon at top or bottom of this page for help on this subject.
01-02-2002, 09:18 PM
OK. What am I looking for in tips?
01-02-2002, 09:36 PM
However, in the real world, when you disconnect the autopilot, the auto throttle will get disconnected also, like it did in FS 2000. Its considered a bug, and MS will fix it. Just get to your power level, 20 seconds out from landing, and kill it (ie, shut the auto throttles off). Pretty easy, in my opinion.
01-03-2002, 07:26 AM
>However, in the real world, when
>you disconnect the autopilot, the
>auto throttle will get disconnected
>also, like it did in
>FS 2000. Its considered a
>bug, and MS will fix
>it. Just get to your
>power level, 20 seconds out
>from landing, and kill it
>(ie, shut the auto throttles
>off). Pretty easy, in my
Huh? Which aircraft are your referring to..? In my experience the autothrottle and autopilot are separate, yet interlinked. DreamFleet 737 and 767 PIC both successfully manage to show that integratino and separate operation of a/p and a/t are possible. Switch off one and the other remains engaged.
As it should be...
In FS2002 Shift-R disables autothrottle.
Well, you can move the throttle, but the autothrottle moves them back again.
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01-03-2002, 09:14 AM
"In the real world, how hard is it to move the flight controls and throttles whilst auto pilot/throttle is turned on?"
It's not so much a question of how hard it is to move them in the real world, but of how dangerous it is to do so. As soon as you start to overpower the automation, it thinks something is wrong, so it starts to make adjustments to regain the conditions you've asked for. So when you take your hands off again, look out!
It's pretty simple to turn off the automation when you want to do something manually, then reengage (if you still want auto-control) after the manual changes. But please don't ask a dumb machine to read your mind.
01-03-2002, 09:29 AM
From the readme.rtf file that comes with FS2002:
Both our Help and aircraft panels imply that the speed hold is associated with the autopilot. In Flight Simulator 2000, shutting off the autopilot disengaged the airspeed hold. In Flight Simulator 2002, however, many improvements have been made to the autopilot system, including the ability to hold airspeed separate from autopilot operation. The autothrottle now controls airspeed regardless of whether the autopilot is on.
01-03-2002, 09:53 AM
Thanks to all. Now I see how a pilot flies the AP. I think. I am a 78 year old retired Architect, and not a pilot. Just a latent frustrated one. Thanks again.
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