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I am pondering the idea of buying FS2002.
Have any of you guys got 2002? What’s it like? What do you think of it?
The main holdback from getting 2002 is my system. Is it worth getting with this system?
Intel Celeron OR Pentium II 333mhZ (Sticker on case says Celeron, ‘My Computer’ properties says Pentium II)
Geoforce II Mx 32MB Graphics Card
12-31-2001, 08:34 PM
Well, if it says PII, then it is a PII.
As for FS... The only drawback on your system is your CPU. If you can get something like an 800 or 1GHz then you'll run FS nicely. I have a 1GHz Athlon T/Bird, 512Mb RAM, GeForce 2 Pro and WinXP, and it flies like mad with everything maxed out. If you can get a faster CPU than that - go for it!!! The faster the better!! :)
12-31-2001, 08:53 PM
Like bobsey says the faster the better.
I personally wouldn't bother buying it until you have more processing power.
FS2K2 is fantastic straight out of the box and everyday there are add-on aircraft and sceneries released both as freeware and payware to further enhance it. Take a look at http://www.dreamfleet2000.com and http://www.fsd-international.com/ for some examples.
No, nobody here has fs2002, we are all waiting for the bus.
01-01-2002, 02:05 AM
Fer, ahhh man, you took my fun for the night...hehe...I was wondering if someone was going to say that. :)
For the record, the early Celerons were PII's. just a smaller on die cache. (Celerons came with 128K or 64k as PII's came with 256K I believe.) :)
01-01-2002, 04:57 AM
LAST EDITED ON Jan-01-02 AT 05:10AM (EDT)[p]>For the record, the early Celerons
>were PII's. just a smaller
>on die cache. (Celerons came
>with 128K or 64k as
>PII's came with 256K I
the original celerons were P2's with no L2 cache (dumb mistake) whereas the P2's came with a lofty 512kb (which is expensive to produce). intel did this as a marketing ploy to compete w/ the low cost AMD chips of the time... realizing their stupidity, they released the celeron-a (with an L2 cache), which is what we see today. so... you've either got an original celeron or a P2 with a sticker.
ps... you're in a FS2002 forum and you're wondering if we have the game?!? ... dood, it's been out since october!
pss... i hope ya get it cause it's a blast! however, you'll definitely want to upgrade your processor if you want to get any enjoyment out of the game.
good luck, bro.
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01-03-2002, 03:38 AM
actually, you're absolutely right Funk, the original celerons didn't have the L2 cache.
And I'm just pretending to have fs2k2 because I just oh so love coming on the board...hehe :)
01-03-2002, 04:21 AM
LAST EDITED ON Jan-03-02 AT 04:23AM (EDT)[p]I have a Celeron 600 and I'm doing fine. Onboard sound and video (11MB allocated from RAM). 192MB SDRAM DIMM, Windows XP home edition, and on the HD I have three partitions- one for system stuff other than games, one for games, and a 1GB swap cache; however according to many here they say that isn't necessary. I've been watching my resource meter and realize that I do need more physical RAM, because even though I have plenty of paging memory on the HD, my peak commit charge (total memory used in the current windows session at one time) exceeds my physical RAM by roughly 40 MB (and this is more than likely due to FS2K2 running with XP and it's services that it runs while the OS is operational), and even though my sim experience is rather smooth for the most part, they say that whenever this happens, excessive paging occurs, slowing down system performance- simply because access to a disk is normally sequential. Think about it, a digital chip with specific address locations or a disk which requires more analog mechanical power? I know what I'd rather have, but money is a little tight now that the holidays are over...
I have the same issue as you- Celeron trying to act like a Pentium. A friend of mine who works in networking here says even though this happens, get a pentium because the performance should surpass the celeron, and it's probably because of the reason that everyone is talking about- cache (I'm not too certain about that). But I would check the specs of the motherboard and see what your processor upgrade limitations are. I can only go to a 750 on mine, but I'm not sure if it has to be a Celeron. If BIOS registers it as a Pentium than I'd assume it's okay, but you know how the old saying goes about assumptions. I'll bet a II or a III chip is pretty cheap now...
But yeah, what've you got to lose? It'll be the best investment you make.
From the beautiful Italian countryside,
01-03-2002, 05:03 AM
you can upgrade to a PIII as long as the socket is either a 370 (aka flip chip or FCPGA) or slot 1 and the motherboard supports higher multipliers. A bios upgrade might also be required. I've never dealt with the 1st generation of celerons so I don't know what type of socket they used. And again, the reason for the OS recognizing the celeron as a Pentium is stated above.. :) first celerons were built around the P2 architecture.
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