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01-03-2002, 12:45 AM
T-33 and the T-38
contrast and similarity..!
"-Hovering is for pilots who love to fly but have no place to go."
01-03-2002, 01:24 AM
Nice shots! The funny thing is that we still use T-33s here in Canada (but not in their original pilot training role though).
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01-03-2002, 10:01 AM
Actualy..... thats a F-5...... the T-38 is a 2 holer(seats) not one :-)
01-03-2002, 10:37 AM
You are most definitely right! I was reading the "read-me" file before flying, and there was mention of the T-38 and the similarities between the two. I snapped the few pics and then changed over to the T-33 and snapped away. While posting, the 'T's were stuck in my head!
Thanks for setting it straight.
01-03-2002, 02:26 PM
Wow Jeff, those shots are sweet! You really get the sensation of speed across, which is not easily done in the sim.
The nose art on your sigs is awesome as well!
-Hovering is for pilots who have already been there-
Bob 'Wolf' Hayes
I Seeee Youuuuu!
01-03-2002, 02:36 PM
How bout this for a Canadian T33? not sure of the squadron, think it was the one based at Greenwood NS, but here i am flying over me hometown airport of CYSU.
01-03-2002, 07:07 PM
Welcome back..! Getting the sense of speed is sometimes pure luck. I think it is all in the mind, you see a plane that is supposed to be 'fast' and then BOOM, it looks like it is. Kinda like that Toyota Celica commercial.
I was wondering if that quote would get a rise out of you!
01-03-2002, 08:27 PM
lol...or kinda like that last sig, everything looks so fast just sitting there!
Bob 'Wolf' Hayes
I Seeee Youuuuu!
01-04-2002, 01:00 AM
LAST EDITED ON Jan-04-02 AT 00:39AM (EDT)[p]Yep, that's from the "Bluenoser's", 434 Combat Support Squadron now based at CFB Greenwood. They used to be based at CFB Shearwater which is about a kilometer from my house, but they, along with the Challengers that made up the rest of the squadron, moved to Greenwood some years before, leaving only the Sea Kings (yikes) and the local flying club at Shearwater.
Nice shot of Summerside, gotta love the treatment MS gave PEI!
Here's some shots of the above mentioned aircraft flying over CFB Shearwater (CYAW).
Here's that same CT-133 flying just east of Shearwater, with Halifax Harbour in the background and Morris Lake just below. This plane would be flying somewhere just over my house.
Here's a CC-144 Challenger flying just west of Shearwater. In the background is Morris Lake, Bissett Lake, and Cow Bay. This aircraft is actually not the one in service with 434 Squadron, but is actually in service with 412 Transport Squadron based at CFB Trenton, Ontario. The paint scheme is basically the same as that used by 434 however.
Now all I need is a good CH-124 Sea King painted in the colours of 423 Squadron, currently serving in the Arabian Sea abooard several Canadian ships in the area to complete my Shearwater hanger!
01-04-2002, 01:06 AM
Well at least someone recognized it lol. And i think that the Tbirds and challengers were struck off strength in greenwood last year. not sure. but i think.
01-04-2002, 01:41 AM
What do you mean by struck off strength?
01-04-2002, 10:07 AM
REtired the fleet. I'm gonna check to make sure, but i think they are gone.
01-04-2002, 01:14 PM
LAST EDITED ON Jan-04-02 AT 12:15PM (EDT)[p]I've just had a look at the CAF's website, (http://www.airforce.forces.ca/equip/equip1_e.htm), The CT-133 is still in service right now at Greenwood, but is being phased out beginning March 31, 2002. I remember now at the Nova Scotia Int'l airshow held at Shearwater last September, they did a T-Bird retirement flyby.
I think you are correct about the Greenwood based Challengers though, the only ones listed on the website are those used by 412 Transportation Squadron based in Trenton. The ones that used to be in Greenwood were used for airborne electronics or something along those lines.
01-04-2002, 01:39 PM
Well where did ya get that challenger? and if ya find the sea king lemme know, also if you find any 413 squadron aircraft, Currently the LAb and the herc, i would like to know.
01-04-2002, 02:59 PM
LAST EDITED ON Jan-04-02 AT 02:06PM (EDT)[p]I think I got the Challenger from flightsim.com, it was created by Chuck Dome. There is a Sea King available on flightsim.com in CAF colours, but it is a FS98 model and is quite outdated. There is a newer FS2000 Sea King in existance, but as far as I know, it has yet to be repainted into CAF colours.
I know a Greenwood based Lab exists, I think I got it from here, it was painted in the colours of the Lab that was lost over Quebec a few years ago.
As for the Herc, I know a number of different ones are available here, not sure exactly which squadrons though.
I'm looking around flightsim.com, the challenger is available here, the file name is cl600_cf.zip, the author is actually Barry Blaisdell and Jens Borgstroem, not Chuck Dome.
The Lab is available on flightsim.com, the file name is ch113a20.zip. It is a FS98 file, but the best I could find.
I've found a Canadian Hercules here, the file name is cc130_2k.zip, again by Barry Blaisdell and Jens Borgstroem, repaint by Repaint by Larry Smith. It is a C-130H, doesn't mention the squadron, but the tail number is 130315.
Hope this helps.
01-04-2002, 03:38 PM
yeah i got that lab for CFS1, it flies like the harriers i've downloaded.
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