View Full Version : WW2 Pacific Theatre Charter - Pt 2
01-01-2002, 09:45 AM
Well, if the leg from Port Moresby to Lae was nice, Lae to Rabaul was downright breathtaking... I only wish I was able to show it to you properly... New Britain must be an amazingly beautiful island in real life!
Taking off from Lae
In climb over Finschhafen
Now, a geologist could probably explain how this happened... :-)
Found these volcanoes, roughly two thirds up the north coast of New Britain. If I read my atlas right, the larger of them is The Father. Not sure what the other one is called, but I guess it'd have to be the Mother-in-law...
Look at the shadow from the volcano...
Too be continued...
P.S. Taking shots showing the terrain itself is rather tricky... I guess the way to go is to try and find some terrain features that fit into a shot, in such a way that the overall "feeling" of the terrain is captured... If anyone has some inputs here, I'd be mighty greatful! D.S.
01-01-2002, 09:57 AM
the 3rd picture is called a spit and is caused by long shore drift what happens is waves come at the material further up the island at a strange angle which washes the material down and makes what you see spits dont last for ever and after about 1,000,000 years they could be washed away
01-01-2002, 05:24 PM
Well, that could be it... But isn't a spit usually a formation made of sand? This looks rather "rocky" to me (although it admittedly doesn't show very well in the picture), with coral reefs and stuff all over it?
But I wouldn't necessarily know about such things, would I? ;-)
01-01-2002, 08:41 PM
:-lol ..Uhmmm… Wow…
Kind’a leaves me speechless… Yeah, like that could happen, huh? ;-)
These are just absolutely amazing…
Oh wow… Now Those are Mountains!
Every shot is first-class all the way, Björn, no kiddin’ either…
I really, really love the middle three… but they’re all fantastic!
“Now, a geologist could probably explain how this happened...”
..I’d rather hear it from the poets… :-)
The volcanoes shot is just amazing… wow… :-eek
“Look at the shadow from the volcano...”
Yeah – no lie, that’s just awesome… Oh my gosh…
“Taking shots showing the terrain itself is rather tricky... I guess the way to go is to try and find some terrain features that fit into a shot, in such a way that the overall "feeling" of the terrain is captured... If anyone has some inputs here, I'd be mighty greatful!”
I don’t see anything to add to that, save the one small ingredient.
Of course, that would be the “practical” approach and a necessity to that end – but – maybe because I tend to be such a ‘spiritual’ person, I put a lot of stock in “psychical-impressionism.”
It may be what you mean, also by – the “’feeling’ of the terrain…”
I think most-probably that is the central key: not just to “capture” some geological feature within a complete (single) frame – but to find that point where you are acquiring a sense of your own spirituality in view of the scenery around you: so – not just the “scenery” which is “captured” but something of one’s-own sense of being there in that moment under those conditions, etc…
It’s not logic, and can’t be reasoned – it has to be felt.
Hope this makes at-least a little sense…
I’m really tired again and probably should just shut up and go to bed… :-)
I might add though, that to me it seems you’ve achieved this with considerable sensitivity in these shots – again, pointing to the middle three as first rate examples.
How could those shots be “improved?”
They couldn’t be…
They could only be altered, which would kill them – or discarded and replaced by some other shot(s).
Those captured where you were in relation to the terrain in those passing moments, and there is a subtle suggestion of where “you” were in relation to yourself the moment they were taken…
Prime examples of what make excellent SS’s works of art when they reach that level of heightened sensitivity…
Ok – now I should shut up and go get some sleep or something… ;-)
But, I do mean what I’ve said here – even if I read this tomorrow and wonder what the heck I was saying… ;-)
Excellent shots, as always, Björn…
Please do keep them coming! :-)
All the best, as ever –
01-02-2002, 05:18 AM
You do keep me busy writing comments to your comments, don't you... :-lol Thanks, again, for what you said... ;-)
You know, I was a bit at loss as to what to post here... Normally I post about 10 % of my shots, but this time I could only get myself to take about 15 shots from the entire flight... The scenery just wouldn't fit into the shots! :-lol But I was really happy about the second one, that one looked about the way I wanted it too! It happens all too rarely, doesn't it? :-)
"..I’d rather hear it from the poets… "
now, isn't that the truth... well put!
Your comments about "scenery shooting" are really nice, you say exactly what I was trying to say in all too few words...
"acquiring a sense of your own spirituality in view of the scenery around you"
Yes, that is precisely what I was aiming for! Now the question is, how do I convey that impression to the viewer? What should be in the shot? When you do succeed, you feel it the moment you see the SS... But which path do you trod while searching for the shot that gives you that feeling? I have plenty of boring mountain shots (sort of like # 5 in this series, but in flatter light and without the volcano; doesn't look too bad but they certainly don't convey the right feeling) to show me how not to do it...
That's the way I try to learn... Whenever I see a shot that I feel I like, I try to analyze it to try and understand what it was about the shot that gave me that feeling and how to do it again... Oh well, this didn't come out at all the way I wanted it to...
"Hope this makes at-least a little sense…"
It makes perfect sense Tia, really well said... Up to the point of "where “you” were in relation to yourself", that is too complicated a concept for a poor physicist to grasp... :-lol But you are probably right about that part too, and I'll just have to try and understand it... ;-)
I'm off in search for some even more beautiful shots to share with you all (well, actually I'm off for lunch... ), but see you later, obviously... ;-)
Take care, hope your flu is finally getting better, and all the best to you...
01-02-2002, 09:25 AM
Hi Björn… :-)
“You do keep me busy writing comments to your comments, don't you... :-lol “
:-lol ..Well – I would say “sorry” - - if I were… ;-)
“The scenery just wouldn't fit into the shots! :-lol But I was really happy about the second one, that one looked about the way I wanted it too! It happens all too rarely, doesn't it?”
It does – and for a reason. It’s not-easy.
Little anecdote: My dad still loves telling me how when I was a very small girl I used to seem to want this and that, etc – and I really wanted the things I liked – all of them…
So, at-times, he’d sit me down and ask me: “Darling, do you want everything?”
I’d nod my little head and answer honestly: “Yes.”
He’d ask me – “But where would you put it all?”
With all the innocence of a small child, I’d unabashedly answer: “Everywhere…” ;-)
..It’s the truth though… It’s rare here because so much is required to make a really masterful SS – particularly one which would fall into my ‘Class A’ category.
At the start and general-most level, I have three possible “goal-orientations” for each SS, pertaining to the picture's “Subject(s).”
* Class C
Primary subject * Aircraft
Secondary subject * Scenery
* Class B
Primary subject * Scenery
Secondary subject * Aircraft
* Class A
Primary subject * Aircraft
Primary subject * Scenery
To get (perhaps more aptly said than to make) a truly successful *Class A* SS is a considerable challenge under the most favorable conditions (IMHO).
Even with very finely tuned skill in discerning where those SS’s are most likely to occur, I think inevitably, a big part of each one which really “works,” is luck.
There’s a delicate balance between the orientation (what one’s looking for and wishing to achieve), the level of discernment one has tuned for finding these things – and just the plain blind luck of coming upon them while in flight somewhere… The “situation.”
When all things favorably combine, the SS then becomes possible and one either “gets” it, or misses it…
I have begun to get a more developed sense that over time with a great deal of practice and repetition – one is more-likely to “get” such a SS when everything conducive is combined, than one is to miss it.
It’s a tightrope walk: to fly in spot view – for example – and, on one side to preserve and maintain the “Simulation;” all the sense of flying just here, over this scenery, at this altitude, in this plane, now… - and on the other side, flying and following the plane and scenery in motion with the eye of an artist aware that once the shot is taken it’s immediately transformed forever: it will be given to “posterity;” it will become that place, in that aircraft, then…
It does change – the SS is never exactly what the moment was in situation: it existentially cannot be.
So the challenge?
To maintain one eye for the Sim. and the other eye as the artist with view not to what is seen here & now, but what will I want to see then? (Later, when all is said and done): aware at-once that these are not identical.
Sorry for having said so much here, but, as you can see, I’ve given this a bit of reflection trying to get my own shots in those regions of artistic form and expression…
Yes indeed, it does happen “all too rarely” – and there’s a reason why… A lot has to converge and present itself together for such SS even to become possible – then one is either on top of it, or one misses it…
Hope all this makes some bit of sense! ;-)
“..acquiring a sense of your own spirituality in view of the scenery around you.”
“Yes, that is precisely what I was aiming for! Now the question is, how do I convey that impression to the viewer?”
:-lol ..My dear friend – don’t even try… It’s tantamount to trying to make oneself responsible for the spirituality of the viewer.
The best – and all – one can do, is to achieve this for yourself. If and when you do, it will breathe-itself in the shot and the viewer will either experience it, or miss it. Period.
For such, one needs to be rather finely tuned – like a tuning-fork…
One is enough for anyone… ;-)
Excepting perhaps certain Priests, Jesuits and Professors of Theology at the Sorbonne… ;-)
This is of course, nothing more than my humble opinion…
“What should be in the shot?”
*shrugs* ..Whatever it requires… What does one “wish” to be in it?
“When you do succeed, you feel it the moment you see the SS... But which path do you trod while searching for the shot that gives you that feeling?”
There is – fortunately – no “Blue Guide,” no map, no Atlas – and not even Pausanias can answer this one…
You can fly yourself into that position where such become most-likely or probable – the rest..? ..is “fate;” it’s a bit of luck, mood, concentration, foreknowledge of what one is after, etc – and not blinking too-many times while what’s sought comes closer & closer…
“I have plenty of boring mountain shots (sort of like # 5 in this series, but in flatter light and without the volcano; doesn't look too bad but they certainly don't convey the right feeling) to show me how not to do it...”
:-lol ..I never “met” a boring mountain: not ever.
..But I think I do understand what you’re saying here…
Maybe try looking at the “tail side” of that coin?
Perhaps – those shots which are “misses” also tell us how to achieve what we’re really after?
Truthfully, I think an “unsuccessful” shot is a bad “instructor.” They lie.
I think it’s too-easy to fall victim to false-impressions based on them.
What one believes failed in this shot, may very well work to best-advantage elsewhere in a different light with the same or different aircraft, etc…
There are simply too-many variables and nuances even in this Sim to rely on a “missed” shot for any insight into what is “wrong,” or what “to do” to achieve what one wishes…
Make any sense? :-shy
“That's the way I try to learn... Whenever I see a shot that I feel I like, I try to analyze it to try and understand what it was about the shot that gave me that feeling and how to do it again...”
*nods agreeably* :-)
As I’ve said so-many times in past: All Art is refinement.
That is, of course – the Classic method.
&nd the more one follows that approach – the more keenly one develops that power of discernment.
“It makes perfect sense Tia, really well said... Up to the point of "where 'you' were in relation to yourself", that is too complicated a concept for a poor physicist to grasp…”
:-lol ..Sorry… Well – that’s a very simple and basic metaphysic: ;-) ..The deeper one feels one’s spirituality (the more attuned to it one becomes) – the closer one is to one’s essence (the true-self).
The great abyss between alienation and self-realization… ;-)
It often happens that one “finds-oneself” conjointly while in course of discovering something outside oneself which is [/I]Grand.[/I] ..Why nature plays such a vital role in self-realization…
It’s almost impossible in a city, e.g.
“I'm off in search for some even more beautiful shots to share with you all (well, actually I'm off for lunch... ), but see you later, obviously...”
I’m hoping you’re able to take your lunch in the beautiful cabin of the Falcon… :-)
..I certainly hope we’ll meet again soon… as it’s always such a great pleasure… :-)
All the best to you, as ever…
PS. Sorry for the horrid length of this post. :-shy
It’s the morning coffee, you know… blame the South Americans for this rich Mountain-grown… ;-)
&nd many thanks for the well-wishes, too: yes, I think this flu is finally taking a hike! Thank goodness… :-)
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