View Full Version : Funky Force Feedback... Any ideas?
11-03-2002, 11:24 PM
Just got CFS3, and am using it with Microsoft Sidewinder Force Feedback 2 joystick. While there seem to be forces on the stick, they are all wacky... the most noticable of which is that pulling back on the stick, in any plane, tends to increase BACK force pressure, until the stick is holding itself all the way back. NOT the way planes usually work. All of the forces are very erratic, almost like they are reversed or something. Anybody else experiencing this, or have any thoughts as to what might be causing it?
11-04-2002, 09:01 PM
Hello AbeSiemsen, I too am running a MS Sidewinder FF2 and am experiencing the same thing as you are. I'm fighting the stick way too much and the force feedback does seem erratic and reversed, even when you attempt to trim the aircraft. Something is definitely not right here. I tried calibrating the stick a couple of times but that didn't help. I finally just got frustrated and turned the force feedback off. What a bummer. Anybody else?
11-04-2002, 10:27 PM
Have you tried calibrating the stick from within the Sim?
Whenever I run CFS3cfg I have to recalibrate from within the game.
Select control settings, click "calibrate", the game will then
minimize itself and the MSFFB window comes up; click "okay",
the MS window closes and the game returns, ready to play...
Hope this helps!
11-04-2002, 10:53 PM
Mine does it to. I just turned force feedback off. I think my joystick is dying anyways. It wont calibrate. Under the test tab where it shows the joystick movements it shows the rudder, throttle, and stick itself moving erratic. Within the game I can see from spot view the rudder, elevator and ailerons all going crazy. Makes it very hard to fly. It started it when I installed CFS3 so I dont know if it has anything to do with CFS3 but now it does it in all games and all the time. Even with no programs running and on the desk top when I grab the stick the force feedback makes the stick go all over the place. Maby I need to take it apart with a hammer and then burn it.
11-05-2002, 01:46 PM
I have a Logitech Wingman Extreme, and I have problems too. I am disappointed that MS does not have a support tab on their MSCFS3 page. My joystick loves the full back position. even after clibrating several times. Not having the center spring option checked. Increasing the dead zone. Nothing works which leads me to believe its the game. No options left. Ideas? Even after apply full nose down trim it goes screaming for the sky.
11-06-2002, 10:44 AM
Nothing seems to work right with the Force Feedback! I can't adjust the trim tab [1 and 7]. I always have to push the nose down. Also a big BUMP on the stick whenever I change views with F4. And, yes, the stick holding all the way back. We need to tell MS to fix it! Untill they do guess we'll have to fly with FF turned off. [Also what happened to the nice ,floating, view we had in CFS2 and FS2002?]
For what its worth I have a MS force feedback v1, and it does the exact same thing. I'd flight a couple of missions and my wrist would get tired and I'd have to stop. It was so bad I have had to turn of force feedback.
11-07-2002, 10:16 AM
Funky is right!
Did you notice with your CFS3 purchase the "Save $20 on SideWinder Force Feedback 2!" rebate coupon they stuck in the box? It is supposed to "...provides the ultimate Combat Flight Simulator 3 experience."
I have the Force Feedback v1 joystick as well, and having the same control problems as the other messages in this and other threads. MS no longer supports the v1 with drivers and the parent drivers for these joysticks are already in Windows XP OS.
Is this an issue where the "left hand does not know what the right hand is doing"????
11-27-2002, 06:39 PM
I have a problem with reversed rudder controls (twist-grip on the Sidewinder 2 FF) Unlike FS2002, there doesn't seem to be an option to switch this back to a correct setting.
Anyone else noticed this problem ?
12-27-2002, 12:07 AM
I have a similar issue. My Logitech Wingman Force seems
to have strange breaks in the forces during elevator
movement. I also have pedals, and they're reversed with
no apparent option to reverse them. I also couldn't
find a config file in the system that might be edited,
like I did with the Fly! simulator.
12-28-2002, 09:37 AM
Force Feedback is broke right now. Its on the to do list for the next patch.
Right now all you can do is turn it off. In which case we Even My ForceFeedback 2 Sidewinder totally sucks without it. Hardly any resistance in the stick at all.
01-01-2003, 05:20 AM
I just installed CFS3 and have the same problems too - have a MS FF2. Also having XP running out of virtual memory 256K RAM 1.3GHz board and a (Hercules) Nvidia Ti500 video card - very disappointing. The feedback is all over the place - Bill Gates has something to answer for with this heap!.
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