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Brian_Neuman
10-14-2006, 03:09 PM
Hey Guys,

I know I need to upgrade these both. But in a sense, what should I do 1st to get a marked improvement until I can afford to do the next.

I have 1GB of Ram right now. (I know I need to go to 2)

I am running a 6200 256MB card. (I am way behind the times)

What should I do 1st, they will happen probably about 2 months apart. Thanks.

noell
10-14-2006, 03:14 PM
You won't see a huge difference in anything by going from 1GB to GB of RAM so, IMO, go with your video card upgrade first.

...Noell

Brian_Neuman
10-14-2006, 03:17 PM
Ok...I was hoping that was the case. As RAM is nasty expensive. I am going to be getting an AGP card, so you think a good 7600 256 would be acceptable? (I am running a 2.8 P4 OC to 3.0, which I am sure I can do further as I dont have any temperature issues, but I am afraid to monkey with OC too much).

RyanbATC
10-14-2006, 05:38 PM
yeah hey, I thought I replied to your last post, I'd go with the 7600....you probably won't see this huge improvement that you'd like, but I think it will improve things for you. 2GB RAM would be nice for FSX, won't do a lot for FS9 though.

Brian_Neuman
10-14-2006, 06:55 PM
I am not so much looking for the end of the world changes. What needs to be done in this case is a whole new system. I am trying to make the most out of what I have. I just want to be able to use AA and water textures and get the performance I am getting now, if not maybe a 5 fps increase in the heavier traffic areas. Would it help to continue to OC my system from 3.0 to maybe 3.2? Or would that not even be worth checking out?


I found this: 7600GS 512MB for about $199. Whats the difference between the GS and the GT?

jrose
10-14-2006, 07:23 PM
Brian,

I agree that I would upgrade the video card before the memory. One GB is a good amount, but your current video card is not good.

Please check out the October VGA charts at Tom's Hardware before you make your purchase.

http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics.html

If you can afford another $88 on top of the $199, you can get the 7800GS AGP from here for $287:

http://www.3gplaza.com/estore/control/Computer3G/productdetails?id=55232

The 7800GS is a little more than twice as fast as the 7600GS. That is not to say it will produce twice as many FPS in FS X, but nontheless, it is a much faster card. If you do choose to go with the 7600GS, you will still see a major difference between it and what you currently have. So either way, you are making the right move.

You should also consider buying it from a different place. I found it online at newegg.com for $125.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814150190&ATT=14-150-190&CMP=OTC-pr1c3watch

Also, I believe the only real difference between the 7600GS and 7600GT is the GT uses faster memory and core clock speeds. The GT also uses GDDR3 instead of GDDR2. And, I don't think the GT comes in AGP. So it really is a moot point anyway.

Jay

Brian_Neuman
10-14-2006, 07:48 PM
Thanks for that link...but the 125 card is a 256, and I found a 512.

jrose
10-14-2006, 08:02 PM
Ok then, here is one for $146:

http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=190104&AFFIL=pricewatch&NR=1

As an added bonus, it even has a dual-link DVI connector so if you ever get a 30" display such as the Dell 3007WFP, you can run it at 2560x1600x32.

BTW, I have a P4 3GHz with 1 GB a RAM and an ATI x1600 Pro AGP card. I have the 3007WFP and was able to run FS2004 with everything maxed at 2560x1600x32 with very decent and smooth FPS. FSX won't even think about running at that resolution with my card. At 1280x800x32 and all FSX settings set to medium high (default), I get terrible FPS. I have had to adjust down with this card.

Also, dual-link DVI is not Dual DVI ports. It is a single DVI port with twice the frequency capacity with support for high resolution displays.

Jay

Brian_Neuman
10-14-2006, 09:09 PM
Hey thats great. That card was almost identical to the one that I was looking at.

I am not looking to max out my sliders. I just want to be able to use the water textures, and AA and I run at 1024x768 and I dont need anything much more then that. I want to have a visually nice system, and I dont want it to bog down too much in the cities. With FSX for now I want to be around 20fps with the sliders pretty much in the middle.