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joejam2
02-02-2004, 11:59 AM
Chaintech GeForceFX 5600XT 256MB DDR AGP8X with TV-Out & DVI Video Card for $149

OR

eVGA GeForceFX 5700 128MB 8X AGP with TV-Out & DVI Video Card for
$169

OR

eVGA GeForceFX 5700 Ultra 128MB AGP8X with TV-Out & DVI Video Card for $199

TheFlightMan
02-02-2004, 02:05 PM
I replied to your other post and replying to this one as well, if you like NVidia your best bet right now is the 5900XT. EVGA makes one and you can find it at http://www.newegg.com for about $180. If you like ATI and don't want to throw your money out the window then go for a 9600XT. NewEgg has the 9600XT for about $155 and an Ultra Version which brings more games etc but same performance for $195. I warn you though, the 5900XT will smoke the 9600XT big time. The 5900XT has twice the number of pipes and a 256bit memory interface so it can handle much more data than the 9600XT.

I own a 5600 Ultra and can tell you that it sucks, don't waste a penny on this card. The 5700 is an upgrade over the 5600 but you can get a 5900XT for the same amount of money, so why not do it, you have to be a fool if you don't. Another thing, don't waste money on 256MB cards, FS2004 will number use the additional video ram. Put that money to use on something else.

TheFlightMan

comphollic
02-02-2004, 05:34 PM
i would pretty much follow TheFlightMan advice...
but since you are willing to spend around $200 for a video card i would highly recommend the 9800 PRO for $225...better performance and more "future proof" than any current cards nvidia is offering...

ofcourse there is also the 5900XT for under $200 or the 9600XT for $150, just repeating what TheFlightMan had suggested

joejam2
02-02-2004, 09:59 PM
on tigerdirect.com i found this. is there a diff between the se and XT

eVGA GeForceFX 5900se 128MB DDR AGP8X with TV-Out & DVI Video Card

joejam2
02-02-2004, 10:01 PM
wait is this the one you are talking about




http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-150-051&depa=1

joejam2
02-02-2004, 10:34 PM
i think this is the one im going to get because it look better it cheaper and i get free games like comanche 4 and others and a t-shirt=XFX GeForce FX 5900XT Video Card, 128MB DDR, 256-bit, DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP, Model

BUT is this better


XFX GeForceFX 5700 Ultra 128MB AGP8X DDRII TV & DVI Video Card

comphollic
02-03-2004, 12:24 AM
The difference of the 5900 XT and SE
..... ... .. Core \ Memory
5900XT... 390 \ 700
5900SE ... 400 \ 700

The only difference is core speed, but i've seen most 5900Xt cards priced higher than the 5900SE cards..so go with the 5900SE since it is a bit faster at stock..

The 5900SE will eat the 5700Ultra for breakfast, lunch, and dinner...the 5700ultra is no where in the same level as the 5900XT/SE....go for the 5900SE since it is cheaper than the 5700ultra, you won't be disapointed...

JoeJam2....i would rather buy this card

[link:www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=14-130-179&depa=1|5900SE]

It looks great, great price, and great performance...surely this is the TRUE "BANG 4 YOUR BUCK" today...no other card gives you the same\better performance at this price...

happy shopping! :)

joejam2
02-03-2004, 11:20 AM
would you get the 5900SE (link above) over this http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-150-051&depa=1


i wanted to get this because i think it comes with comanche 4 and some other games.

TheFlightMan
02-03-2004, 01:43 PM
The 5900XT and 5900SE are the same cards, it does not make a difference. In fact, if you buy the 5900XT now it comes with Call of Duty which is an awesome game. The 5700 Ultra is not worth looking at since the 5900XT or SE is so affordable. By the way, as I stated before, the 9600XT is no comparison for the 5900XT or SE it will smoke it like a cigar.

I just ordered the 5900XT from E-VGA, the 9600XT is a good card but it cannot be compared, it falls below the performance specs of the 5900XT or SE. Don't buy a card because of the bundled games, you will be making a grave mistake. What good will a game do you if the rest of the games you really want to play don't perform as expected.

TheFlightMan

comphollic
02-03-2004, 10:25 PM
TheFLightMan,

I also thought the 5900XT and the 5900SE are the same...I just found out that the 5900XT is a tad slower core speed than the 5900SE, but there shouldn't be a big performance difference between the two...

Glad to hear that you bought the 5900XT TheFLightMan..tell me how well it perform....and especially tell me how much of a performance difference is there from the 5600Ultra :) LMAO


FYI...i was pretty sure that Call of Duty comes with the EVGA 5900SE..not the 5900XT, off newegg.com
in that case joejam2, i would get the 5900SE...cheaper, free game, and a tad faster at stock speeds than the 5900XT that you showed me..

joejam2
02-03-2004, 10:58 PM
the only one i can find is the
5900XT not SE

joejam2
02-03-2004, 11:03 PM
ok i found this page but where do i go to buy this bundle.
http://nvidia.com/object/nzone_callofduty_bundle.html

comphollic
02-03-2004, 11:25 PM
[link:www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=14-130-179&depa=1|This is the card with COD] but unfortunately, i believe COD is no longer shipped with the 5900 cards anymore...if you are lucky, you might get the last few that might have COD in it, but i doubt it...either way, the 5900SE is still a great card at the that price..

joejam2
02-03-2004, 11:32 PM
yep i just came across it and thats what im geting

TheFlightMan
02-04-2004, 03:11 PM
I ordered the MSI FX5900 XT-VTD128 since I purchase from TechData here in the US. They don't sell the E-VGA which is a shame, however, I am really looking forward to receving this card next week.

TheFlightMan

Darkman
02-12-2004, 01:47 PM
Hi Flightman

Which are the most important issue to look in detail when you are buyimg a new V.card.

Thanks

comphollic
02-12-2004, 11:53 PM
>
>Hi Flightman
>
>Which are the most important issue to look in detail when
>you are buyimg a new V.card.
>
>Thanks


when u r buying a new vid card, you must look at its architechture. Your budget also plays a role here. If your budget ir roughly around $200 look for a card that has 256bit memory (not 256MB!!!)and 8x1 pipes, or 4x2 pipe configuration if you like nvidia. those are two main features on a good card...

TheFlightMan
02-13-2004, 10:57 AM
I recommend getting a well rounded card and remember, high end cards won't do you any good if you have a slow system. As for the rounded part, look for the following:

DX9 Support
256-Bit Memory - Determines the bandwith
Core Speed - Higer is better
Memory Speed - Higher is better
Number of Pipes - The more pipes the more instructions it can handle

NVidia uses a 4X2 architecture, which means, they have four pipes but the pipes carry two instructions at a time. In case of ATI, their high end cards are 8X1 which means they have eight pipes that can carry one instruction at a time. The 8X1 is a bit more realistic but both solutions work. I personally like NVidia and just recently was leaning towards a 9600XT since the 5200..5600..5700..were not delivering much of a punch. However, my selection process changed overnight after the 5900Xt came out. Again, both brands are good and their performance varies from game to game. For example, ATI might be good at FS2004 but when it comes to OpenGL games, NVidia takes the cake. Things like that. You just have to sit and analyze what you will be using the card for, I am very happy with my 5900XT and how it performs with FS2004. Hope this helps.

TheFlightMan