FSUIPC question

[keenrw2]

Hi

I have always used the above program in FS 2002 with no real problems and also use the non registered one with FS 2004 ( with limited options of couse) .
Some of my payware A/C need this program to run right but i was wondering what affect this will have with new A/C add ons for FS2004 that reqiure this program to run , but as i only have the unregisterd version will this be a problem or will it be included with the add on ? .
I will be getting the PSS A330/340 add on from Just Flight when its out but from what i remember of the A320 it need FSUIPC for some of the functions to work.
I dont mind paying for FSUIPC as its only about £15 but if it will be included with the add on it might be a waist of money if i buy it before hand .

Thanks
Rich

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[flyinggriffin]

The important part about registering a product is not only the support you give the developer, but the support they give you. A crippled copy of a program may not work with future releases. The person who made FSUIPC is very very quick to iron out any bugs that crop up and to refine his product.

[greeneg]

I believe that when you use the version of FSUIPC which comes with a particular aircraft that the license is only for that particular product. Much better, IMHO, to go ahead and use the fully registered version of FSUIPC. Works seamlessly and does give the developer the support that he deserves.

Best Regards,

[Strider3]

Why an add-on requires another program to run correctly has yet to be explained.

[heyer]

>Why an add-on requires another program to run correctly has
>yet to be explained.

Here it comes: Many add-ons require FSUIPC.DLL because Microsoft seems to have no interest in programming a realistic simulator. All they offer is just a game. They permanently keep ignoring the wishes and needs of most of their "professional" users...

So, if you try to enhance your simming experience using MSFS there's just no other way than installing FSUIPC.DLL by Peter Dowson. For years it's the only satisfactory way to bypass the huge gap between MSFS and a "real" flightsimulator.

And I truely love Mr. Dowson for having made this fantastic tool (which he gave away for free for so many years)!

[Strider3]

Well...geez. So you all think it's really worth the registered version, obviously.

OK...I know when to say when.

[flyinggriffin]

I think it is less ignore than good business sense. The core of the flightsim crowd could care less about a program to marry 3rd party software to the main program.

The legal climate in the U.S. has something to do with it also. If Microsoft had a built in FSUIPC then if the boys and girls in Redmond changed something in the program and outside add-ons no longer worked then the company would be bombarded by publishers demanding compensation simply because Microsoft is big and can afford it. If Mr. Dowsons product won't work with someones software, there is little incentive for someone to go after him because of money. It is a sad state of affairs, but one that big companys learn to live with.

On a more pratical note, you would need someone in Microsoft to constantly upgrade the program like Pete does. In big companys that is a lot more money per hour. It is weird I know, but time and time again you see it in United States where a big company farms out work to smaller companies who can do it cheaper than they can inhouse.

[Bigshot]

I run FS9 without any FSUIPC addon. Neither the registered verison or the unregistered version. I did use it in FS2k2; but don't miss it in FS9. I've got hundreds of addon aircraft and many, many panels. Everything seems to work fine. Never had a problem with any of them. I know there's addons that require it. But they're not that many. The only addon that I don't have that I'd like to have that I know requires it is that new carrier landing/launch program. I might install the free version for that. So, in short; the program is not a must have for many here. I also don't use much payware stuff and find the included navigation programing just fine. The GPS and ILS seem to work for me. I also find freeware aircraft and other freeware addons just as good and some much better than the payware stuff that's available. I guess it all depends on what you, the user, want to do with the sim.

[flyinggriffin]

There are some nice bells and whistles with the FSUIPC. The quality of payware varies, but no free program is going to touch the PMDG 737 or Dreamfleet GA series. In the case of the PMDG 737, a version of FSUIPC is included to make it work.

[heyer]

>I think it is less ignore than good business sense.

Obviously yes. :-roll

>The legal climate in the U.S. has something to do with it
>also. If Microsoft had a built in FSUIPC then if the boys
>and girls in Redmond changed something in the program and
>outside add-ons no longer worked then the company would be
>bombarded by publishers demanding compensation simply
>because Microsoft is big and can afford it.

Don't the "boys and girls in Redmond" have to learn the term "downward compatibility" anymore? I fear that they are just getting more and more ignorant and incompetent!

>On a more pratical note, you would need someone in
>Microsoft to constantly upgrade the program like Pete does.

Didn't they create this "Trustworthy Computing" thing? Does it mean anything at all? I really doubt it!

[Clarindo]

I apologize if I am going off course with this question, but it refers to FSUIPC and I could only find this thread as an option to pursue it.

Having two domiciles, one in Rio de Janeiro and one in Florida I have just been caught with a reformatting of HD here in Rio and did not bring my key numbers for my registered FSUIPC version.

Could someone let me know which address I could use to try and get this information?

Many thanks and happy flying to all of you.

Clarindo

[artburke]

I think you're right. Some of us, however, want accessories that are not part of the sim - like an outboard avionics stack and a switch panel. I just finished the drilling and switch mounting this afternoon. Without something like FSUIPC, there would be almost no practical way to get the programming of the switches done. There are tons of controls available for the sim, but Microsoft only makes about a fourth of them available via the assignments menu.

The button and key programming (I'm using a keyboard encoder to get the bulk of mine done) Pete offers via FSUIPC is a terrific boon to cockpit builders and tinkerers like me. Of course, I *could* continue to fly by just manipulating buttons on my keyboard and toggling switches with the mouse, but, when I have my fun with the sim I want it to seem just a little bit more real! <g>
Art