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kipp
06-26-2003, 10:27 PM
i have a dell 2350 1.8 ghz with 256mb ram and Intel Extreme graphics card. FS2002 runs well with an average of 25 to 30 fps. So will my current system run fs2004??

kipp

MadMaster
06-26-2003, 11:17 PM
That depends. Your Intel extreme card might not be supported by FSCOF. It just might not be enough.

You can upgrade by getting a Geforce 2 MX400 PCI. Assuming you don't have an open AGP slot.

Upgrading might not be need as your intel extreme card may already support FSCOF.

Regards,
Paul

kipp
06-26-2003, 11:33 PM
it says that it has a memory of 60 GB.

kipp

Tabs
06-27-2003, 12:56 AM
That's harddrive, memory is your RAM (probably 256 or 512)

MadMaster
06-27-2003, 01:51 PM
Tabs is right that is your hardrive of 60GB. If you want to know all of your system specs. Go to the start memu and go to run. Put DxDiag into the box and hit OK. Your computer will run a system check and after that do a couple of things for me.

1. Check to see if your prossecor is a Celeron or a Pentium 4.
2. Hit the display tab and tell me the graphics card.
3. Also tell the Graphics Memory, if it says sharded there tell me that also.

Come back with what you got and I think I will be able to help you better.

Regards,
Paul

The_Association
06-27-2003, 02:07 PM
I believe that all but the cheapest of Dell desktops use the Pentium 4.

Do what MadMaster suggested though, just to be sure. Especially since you have Dell's lowest model - the 2350. It could very well be a Celeron.

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MadMaster
06-27-2003, 02:08 PM
I looked around and found that your graphics card is a shared card. This may be a problem and FSCOF might not support that. I would say buy FSCOF and if it doesn't work buy a GF2 MX400 PCI and install it. After that it should work.

I hope I helped!

Regards,
Paul

The_Association
06-27-2003, 02:13 PM
Just so he knows, a 'shared' graphics card refers to a graphics card (such as your Intel Extreme Graphics) that is integrated into the motherboard (also referred to as 'onboard video'). It then gets its video memory by sharing your system's main memory.

So you have the card set to share 64 MB of memory and you have 256 MB of system RAM, the sharing effectively means that you have 192 MB of RAM free for system use.

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MIKEYORCHIE
06-28-2003, 06:14 AM
LAST EDITED ON Jun-28-03 AT 06:15AM (EDT)[p]oh no attack of the Intel Extreme, I have one of these in my mums PC, ##### I desabled it 2 days after she got the PC, ran like #####, put in a nice 3D Prophet 4000XT PCI,since there was no AGP slot and this was the best PCI card I could get at the time


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facted
06-28-2003, 09:37 AM
The fact that he only has 192 ram left over is the least of his problems unfortunately. The shared video chip just will not do. You will likely have to get a nice and cheap video card for either an agp or pci slot, depending on what your machine can support.

kipp
06-28-2003, 04:54 PM
thanx guys? Ill see what i can do. And my pc is a pentium 4. I looked.

kipp

The_Association
06-28-2003, 11:40 PM
In your situation, I'd highly recommend a Radeon 9000 Pro so long as you have an available AGP slot. You can get one for less than $100 now and it would suit the rest of your specs very well. They are much nicer than the GeForce 4 MX cards that they are meant to compete with.

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MIKEYORCHIE
06-29-2003, 01:12 PM
I've seen Radeon 9000 Pro's in PCI versions as well, they'll be ok if you dont have an AGP slot

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aymen_ayesh
06-29-2003, 01:15 PM
Hi!

I think FS2004 will run, "BUT" don't expect high fps!


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RyanbATC
06-29-2003, 01:32 PM
Either way, I also have on onboard video card in my laptop, and I assure you, FS2004 will work on my system. Its a p3m 1.2, 256 mb ram, and a 16 mb vid card, it will work ok for me.

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MadMaster
06-29-2003, 01:47 PM
It's probably not shared video memory. Video Memory is much faster than the system ram. Thats why if you use shared memory the graphics is much slower. So your laptop will run it and maybe even pretty well.

Regards,
Paul

MIKEYORCHIE
06-29-2003, 03:27 PM
ok.... I dont think that my system will run it well, so I doubt that Ryans laptop will, and I dont think kipps will run it well either, I mean, you could at least be honest


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MadMaster
06-29-2003, 07:23 PM
umm...I'm being honest. Ryans laptop will run it less than mid range, but still the fps would be far up there for the sacrifice of some slider space.

As for your computer Mikey, it will run FS2004 good but not the best. It will probably run it with the sliders almost maxed with good frame rates.

But it all has to do with your opinion. Everybodies "good" is different, and I imagin that yours Mikey is different than mine.

Keep in mind that all this information that it will run good or bad or whatever is based on what I have read from posts and articales on these forumns. I might be off on the guesswork by a little or a lot, depending on how good my guessing went.

Regards,
Paul

boeing
06-30-2003, 05:26 AM
Hello facted, are you saying that fs2004 will NOT work with a shared videocard??

I have a shared videocard, and fs2002 runs fine?

Or does fs2004 needs a seperate videocard?

thanks in advance...

heyer
06-30-2003, 06:40 AM
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MadMaster
06-30-2003, 08:16 PM
It might and it might not. Microsfts requirements is a 8mb video card. That doesn't say shared or not shared.

Likewise, Tribes 2 requires 12 megs on a video card, and my friends 32 meg shared ram card wouldn't work with it. So don't expect FS2004 to work. But I might be wrong.

Regards,
Paul