View Full Version : Voices! Why always American?
One of my main problems with FS2002 is the presence of only American accents. Wouldn't it be nice to have Irish, British, Aussie, Canadian, Hispanic and so on. A greater sense of realism !
06-25-2003, 09:47 AM
LAST EDITED ON Jun-25-03 AT 09:49AM (EDT)[p]Oh?
And what about maybe 100 other accents also? The whole world is not just the few countries you mention. So, that's not realism either.
If I were MS, I'd stick with just one accent, that's the smartest way to go. You start adding other accents, and you start to offend those languages whose accents get left out.
Then, you have to start to control where / when the accents are heard, by region of the world, airline, etc. Just how much would you pay for this sim with all this in it, $200, $300?
...and, why is the default accent that they use American? I'll give you three guesses, and the first two don't count!
It's basically the same reason why they do not use real airline liveries on their airliners. ;-)
06-25-2003, 10:12 AM
Sure, American language is default, but for instance Europe has some distinctive accents of which at least one accent can be used. I don't think anyone would feel offenced. And based on many polls, it is clear that Europe has many, many fanatic FS users, so a little consideration for Europeans would be nice :-).
One could say the same for textures, Europe has different ground textures as the US. No one is offenced by the fact that textures for Europe cover many countries, but are primarily based on e.g. Germany, even though I think The Netherlands has the most beautiful landscape :-lol.
Maybe this is something for MS to consider to make SDK's for, so freeware (or payware) developers can upload accents for different regions.
06-25-2003, 10:25 AM
I agree, I don't think Microsoft should do it....but there's an idea for add-on developers....ATC accent packs!
Here's an idea, six ATC pack covering the globe, consisting of:
ATC Europe and Central Asia 2004
ATC North America 2004
ATC Latin America and the Carribean 2004
ATC Middle East and North Africa 2004
ATC South Asia 2004
ATC East Asia and the Pacific 2004
Or some other combination. I got these from here, click on a region and you will see the majority of countries in the area: http://www.worldbank.org/html/schools/explore.htm
If a product like Ultimate Traffic can cover the globe with airliners of all nationalities, why not ATC packs? It can be done, with time & effort. Just a suggestion!
I was always amazed such a product never came out for FS2002. I suspect there would be a large interest. Proflight 2000 had several accents and that was pretty interesting.
06-25-2003, 12:18 PM
Then how about American regional accents? Despite what Europeans may think all Americans do not sound alike. Just go to the backwoods of Georgia..then talk to someone from Maine.
06-25-2003, 12:56 PM
Right on Cookie. If you want to see it happen, then petition developers to get it done. I'm sure someone with the necesary skills would be very happy to provide us with some nice addon packs.
Besides, all those voice packs - do you really want to add another 200+ MB to the default install? Wouldn't you rather pick and choose which accents you wanted to install from a list of addon packs?
And flyinggriffin is right. The 'American' accents don't even sound that American when you take region into account. Americans from the Southeast do not sound like Westerners and neither of them sound like New Englanders last time I checked.
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06-25-2003, 03:36 PM
FS Traffic 2002 has different voice packs with it, there is a couple of new american voices and english accent and i think theres even an asian dude on there somewhere.
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06-25-2003, 04:54 PM
>Then how about American regional accents?
>Despite what Europeans may think
>all Americans do not sound
>alike. Just go to the
>backwoods of Georgia..then talk to
>someone from Maine.
Yes...I Live in Georgia and i think we should stick w/ omne accent..b/c you'd need a lot of different accents within EACH country
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06-25-2003, 05:38 PM
Microsoft has to leave something out so there's room for 3rd party add-ons.
06-25-2003, 10:47 PM
For FS5.1, as I recall, there was a great add-on adventure of a Liverpool/Dublin flight complete with authentically local ATC.
I wonder: Does the means exist for constructing such adventures for FS2002/2004?
All in good fun.
06-26-2003, 12:04 AM
You can make your own....Take a read of the SDK, it is totally "doable" ;-)
06-26-2003, 01:14 AM
LAST EDITED ON Jun-26-03 AT 01:15AM (EDT)[p]Basically as Lou said, MS is an American company, it is probably right to assume that the voices of the pilots and controllers are those of the developers (who probably all have American accents). Therefore, it seems to me that if MS decided to include accents they would need to hire voice actors to do the voices, which would cost them money, and in the long run probably add on the the price of the sim. Of course, this wouldn't please very many users, and there would probably be an even greater reaction. However, I'm sure that there will be dedicated groups that will be able to produce things like this, take Project AI, they've revamped AI, so now I'm sure somebody out there can revamp the ATC voices!
06-26-2003, 01:31 AM
go with the canadian accent. eh?
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LAST EDITED ON Jun-26-03 AT 03:53AM (EDT)[p]nevermind. just a joke,but probably not very nice. :7
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06-26-2003, 06:15 AM
I completley agree with the original post. Going on one of the other points, that american is different, I do agree with that point as well. I think that there should be one american accent, one main European accent, and a main accent for all the other areas of the world#
06-26-2003, 07:08 AM
Yeah! Being from New Orleans and my mudder was a Cajun, I'd like
MS to include a Cajun accent. Remember Justin (I garontee you)
Wilson. Let folks from Bahston try landing with that dialect.
Take dem five or four times to git dat ting down yeah.
My mudder, she was from Barricade, Louisiana. She told me
stories of da big sign always in da road. BARRICADE AHEAD!
06-26-2003, 07:41 AM
ProFlight 2000 did just that, and it worked on FS2002 too. I would assume that it could be adapted to FS2004 as well.
06-26-2003, 08:44 AM
06-26-2003, 03:17 PM
Microsoft is American made, and there is nothing wrong with that. ;)
06-26-2003, 04:13 PM
He didn't say there was something wrong with it being American made - he just wants some more accents...
What's wrong with that?
LAST EDITED ON Jun-26-03 AT 05:06PM (EDT)[p]Don't you(you's, y'all, ye, ju guys) understand it just isn't practical. I too would much more enjoy flying into Berlin and interacting with Hans instead of Jim,but I don't want to pay more for it,nor do I want to have performance effected, more disc space used up, or other more important features taking a back seat.
The only practical solution I can think of would be to eliminate most of the different voices in exchange for accents. Therefore having 10 or so accents,instead of 10 different voices. If not,the act files would be at least trippled,but probably more.
I could very well be wrong I suppose,and maybe it would'nt effect performance at all.It would then just be a matter of cost. Might require a separate version; FS2004:International.($140 U.S.)
...sorry,I don't know the price in every country
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06-26-2003, 05:30 PM
Some people are not going to be satisfied with what they get out
of FS programs until they sustain real injuries when they crash.
06-26-2003, 06:59 PM
LAST EDITED ON Jun-26-03 AT 07:01PM (EDT)[p]It's unnecessary to you because you are used to the accent.
Look, I don't think Microsoft should do it, or raise the price of FS....but it could be an add-on pack or packs sold separately, for those who choose to have it.
A lot of planes and scenery and ai traffic etc.,.. are things that people on these formus are adding to their flight simulator software aren't "practical." They add them in because they like the particular feature, or because it's important to them.
I think this one, about the accents, is pretty important to a lot of people. It's got to be strange for people around the world to hear (what is to them) a foreign accent in FS. Can you imagine a Ft. Lauderdale controller speaking with a thick French, German, or Chinese accent? To say the least, it would seem out of place to you, just as it is for a controller with an American accent to speak to for example, an Australian flight simmer flying over Sydney.
06-26-2003, 07:07 PM
I completely disagree.
I think it's important not to raise the price of FS, so I think it best the problem be solved with accent pack add-ons.
But the point, and it's a big one, is this:
Suppose FS were made in Germany. Suppose when you flew all over America, you heard controllers speaking English with German accents. That's what these other simmers in other countries go through.
1) I agree Microsoft should NOT be responsible for accents
2) I disagree that is not an important issue to a lot of people.
06-26-2003, 07:22 PM
As Bruce Williams said in his recent interview:
"" We know that the scenery in most parts of the world canít be an absolute representation of the real world. This would need much more developers and a few years more of development. We only do the core of the sim and give other developers the chance to design add-ons with much more details. ""
This could also be reffered to languages. And also it could get pretty political from a marketing standpoint.
As Lou said, How much are you prepared to pay for this sim, because I think if they did it they would have to do it for 'every' country without exception.
Me? I'm happy as larry with what I got/get for my money. 50 odd quid is nothing these days.
I really don't see it as a 'problem' as you stated.
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06-27-2003, 11:49 AM
I tink itz mainly cuz all youse un Amerikan guys tawk funny and nowun cud unnerstand youse.
:) Just kidding! - Would be kinda nice altho impractical tho.
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06-27-2003, 01:05 PM
06-27-2003, 01:14 PM
American Accent?? HA! We are the only people in the world that use english without an "accent."
06-27-2003, 01:53 PM
I think we agree, I don't think Microsoft should do it. It's not a problem per se, it's more of a preference for some people.
Look, to me this is very similar to the issue of having ai traffic with real, country-specific airlines included. Microsoft did not do this - the add-on developers such as ultimate traffic - did.
It's the same thing with ATC accents, the add-on developers, not Microsoft should do it. Then we, the consumers, can choose whether or not to add-on the feature.
06-27-2003, 01:59 PM
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