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09-07-2002, 12:58 PM
Anyone know if any interior views are available for this plane?
09-12-2002, 01:47 AM
LAST EDITED ON Sep-12-02 AT 00:49AM (EDT)[p]I don't know of any interiors available except for new panel.
What I would like to know if there is a way to turn the plane once you land on water? I've tried the rudder key (works on the caravan) but have no luck getting it to respond. I love this new goose by Mike Stone but sure would like to be able to turn on the water. All I can get it to do is push the wing down into the water. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you in advance.
09-12-2002, 02:19 AM
don't know if this is the same plane design or not, but there is a really cool Goose over at Avsim by a lady named Heather. This one has multiple exterior and panel options. With some neat little bonus features like a music selection panel that plays 1940s tracks. Plus it turns nicely after landing on water with the rudder.
09-12-2002, 07:53 AM
That is a Duck, not a Goose. Add this line to your config and you will have a water rudder for the Goose.
point.13= 5.000, -16.000, 0.000, -4.000, 160000.000, 0.000, 0.000, 40.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.700, 1.000, 1.200, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000
Place this under your "contact points" in the aircraft config and hit save. Use shift-w to activate/deactivate.
09-12-2002, 08:52 AM
"That is a Duck, not a Goose."
Duck... Duck... GOOSE :-lol :-jumpy :-lol
It's like being back in kindergarten :)
Sorry, couldn't resist.
09-12-2002, 09:47 AM
You could add a water rudder, or resort to a little trickery shown below:
point.7= 4.000, 4.000, -2.000, -4.500, 10000.000, 0.000, 0.000, 30.000, 1.000, 2.500, 0.650, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000
point.8= 4.000, 4.000, 2.000, -4.500, 10000.000, 0.000, 0.000, 30.000, 1.000, 2.500, 0.650, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000
Add the 30.000 where shown to points 7 and 8 in the cfg file. This adds a steer angle to the front two float points, and you don't need to use shift-w. You can use either FSedit or Notepad.
This also works on the C185.
09-12-2002, 11:53 AM
My advice is to not do any of those things. I don't think a real Goose had a rudder, and neither should yours.
Steer by using the separate throttles. Turn right by accelerating the left engine with the right idle. Turn left by switching the procedure.
Much more realistic. Much more rewarding.
09-12-2002, 01:18 PM
I thought of that and would like to do that, but could not find any throttle on the panel. So I downloaded a panel for the goose that looked as if it had twin throttles. But when I tried it out, they pushed together. I tired emailing Mr Stone about it but the email came back.
09-12-2002, 01:26 PM
In Mike's Goose, the throttle quadrant is brought up using shift-2.
After that, you can move the throttles individually.
09-12-2002, 01:43 PM
Thank you very much. I'll go back to that panel.
09-12-2002, 02:04 PM
This the second post I've seen about a Grumman Goose, where is this plane at? I have searched the file library and cannot find a Grumman Goose. The only Grumman two engine float plane I know about is called the Albatross and I have found that one in the library and it is not by Mike Stone.
“Oh, I have slipped the surly bonds of earth,
And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;
And, while with silent, lifting mind, I trod
The high untrespassed sanctity of space,
Put out my hand, and touched the face of God!” (Magee)
09-12-2002, 02:10 PM
09-12-2002, 08:48 PM
Press "E + 1" to control engine number 1, "E + 2" to control engine 2, or individually drag the throttles with your mouse. On the alternate panel, the throttles are on the main panel, from the roof (see below). Press "E + 1 + 2" to relink the throttles
The files are available on avsim (goose_panel_v101.zip and goose_panel_v101-panelbmp.zip) for the most recent ones, (maybe here too), just in case you downloaded a different panel than I think you have.
09-12-2002, 11:26 PM
That's all well, fine and true, but not everyone flys from the inside. By doing this, it will work inside or out and if you don't hit it (shift-w), you can do as you say anyhow. Realism only goes so far in this sim. You don't open the doors on a real Goose with shift-e either! :)
09-13-2002, 12:06 AM
This is the other panel I was refering to but I can not get the throttle, left or right, to move very much and even that is briefly. I can only kind of bump it with the mouse and it just snaps back for some reson. So I am going to use the E+1 & E+2. I understand the point about the rudder & external view flying too. I'll keep that in mind.
Thanks to all for all the suggestions, ideas & help. That's why this site is the main one I always go to.
09-13-2002, 12:53 PM
And lots of neat repaints available at Flightsim and Avsim.
09-13-2002, 02:20 PM
I plan on checking those out as well.
After everyone's help in learning how to turn the goose while in the water, it has now become one of my favorite planes to fly. It turns great using the engines. I flew it at night for the first time and discovered that the pilot cabin panel lights glow inside for several minutes when you first start out and turn off after a while. The landing lights shine on the ground/water and the side door opens up on command. And yes, it can be driven into the water with the gear down, which makes me think it can be driven up on shore as well, but havn't tried it yet. There are prop controls too.
It's a great plane.
Thanks to Mike Stone for creating it.
09-13-2002, 03:12 PM
Additionally, you can open both the pilot's and copilot's windows by using whatever command is set to raise/lower the Concorde's nose. I just assigned O and Shift-O to it. When you open the windows, the copilot turns his head to look out of it.
And yes, you can drive it in and out of the water on its gear.
Thanks to Mike Stone for such a terrific plane!
09-13-2002, 06:58 PM
Does any one have a checklist for the Goose? An old instructor of mine once said you shouldn't try to fly a new plane (to you) without studying the checklist. One day he didn't and landed a new Bonanza gear up. I like to use them in conjunction with a flow check.
LAST EDITED ON Sep-17-02 AT 06:40PM (EDT)[p]Hey Lifejogger, and anyone else having a hard time getting the right files....
>This the second post I've seen
>about a Grumman Goose, where
>is this plane at?
>I have searched the file
>library and cannot find a
>Grumman Goose. The only
>Grumman two engine float plane
>I know about is called
>the Albatross and I have
>found that one in the
>library and it is not
>by Mike Stone.
Here are the files to look for at http://www.avsim.com
At least this is what I have installed on mine. I like the Cutters Goose, as I remember the TV show well. Enjoy!!
09-17-2002, 09:34 PM
Thanks Jim for the posting and to the person that did the texture repaint for "Cutter's Goose". (left no email address on the readme file). I must have missed that update on their site by just a couple of days. I've been hoping someone would do a skin for Cutter's Goose for a long time. I just got through giving it a test flight and it looks great & Mike Stone's version has been one of the best ones to fly too. Thanks to all.
I landed near Meigs Field in the water then switched to tower view, lowered the gear and drove it up out of the water onto the land then parked it on the runway. It sure looked neat climbing out of the water like that. From now on, you'll find me either flying the Caribbean or Tahiti.
Jack says hi too.
09-18-2002, 12:42 AM
Oooops.. I guess I've really spent too much time on the sim now.
Can't even tell a Duck from a Goose anymore. ;-)
I have registered with my local Highschool for some more classes.
I hope I did not sent you over to AVSIM for nothing. The Duck is still a cute little design.
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