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Doods
06-28-2013, 12:50 PM
Anyone having trouble with windows 8.1... I can't get FSX to run on it at all just kicks me to the desk top....I had no trouble with windows 8 FSX worked great.....

FlyingHorseSindbad
06-28-2013, 01:31 PM
Looks like others have encoutered this - see http://forum.avsim.net/topic/412452-fsx-warning-before-you-install-win-81-preview/

This is a separate product, correct? NOT something that would be included in the usual miriad of updates to the current Windows 8?

Doods
06-28-2013, 02:10 PM
Thanks for the comeback....well 8.1 is only a free preview we will have to wait......

Habu1967
06-28-2013, 02:51 PM
I am a computer specialist for a large retailer and the information I have is a bit scary. When you run the 8.1 preview it will behave just like an upgrade and install itself over your existing OS. Secondly this is a BETA version and is subject to have major and minor bugs. My personal suggestion would be to watch the preview video, then wait for the full release this fall.

Les

FlyingHorseSindbad
06-28-2013, 03:11 PM
I am a computer specialist for a large retailer and the information I have is a bit scary. When you run the 8.1 preview it will behave just like an upgrade and install itself over your existing OS. Secondly this is a BETA version and is subject to have major and minor bugs. My personal suggestion would be to watch the preview video, then wait for the full release this fall.

Les

... From your lips to our ears! Thanks.

alaskancrab
06-28-2013, 03:23 PM
Wait until RTM... hopefully MS will add a fix like they did with Win 8.

Doods
06-28-2013, 06:11 PM
Well after that I did a complete format and put everything on windows 7 for now..... put windows 8.1 on a separate drive and didn't need windows 8 at all... download the iso put it on a disc and install it.....there is a free key for it......

FleetingThought
06-30-2013, 10:48 AM
I recall previous Windows "previews" that basically couldn't be uninstalled cleanly, in other words you had to reformat a drive and install fresh from scratch to get rid of it. One version of Internet Exploder was like this, too.

Never, ever touch MS software until it's extensively cooked and out for awhile, unless you are a developer and reinstalling OSes is your idea of a good time.... ;)

Doods
06-30-2013, 12:07 PM
I recall previous Windows "previews" that basically couldn't be uninstalled cleanly

why would you not just delete the drive and start over.....I never saw a program yet that uninstalled cleanly there is parts of it everywhere.....when you uninstall FSX there is still lots on parts of it on your hard drive.....

alaskancrab
06-30-2013, 02:43 PM
Turn on Hyper-V... Install windows 8.1 on a .vhdx simple as that. But to use it for gaming is just not part of the deal...

Doods
06-30-2013, 04:22 PM
Turn on Hyper-V... Install windows 8.1 on a .vhdx simple as that. But to use it for gaming is just not part of the deal...


I totally agree with that.......

alaskancrab
06-30-2013, 07:18 PM
Yup... most of my steam games didn't start working until General Availability for 8.0.

Mogget
07-01-2013, 06:17 AM
My advice.........don't install BETA versions of Windows (unless you are a Microsoft beta tester). You're just asking for trouble.

mgh
07-01-2013, 07:08 AM
My advice.........don't install BETA versions of Windows (unless you are a Microsoft beta tester). You're just asking for trouble. Very sensible advice. Further, why install a new operating system (beta or not) unless you really must have its new features?

Doods
07-01-2013, 09:17 AM
Don't you guy's like to take chances at all.......Its the thrill of new stuff.....

Mogget
07-01-2013, 09:40 AM
Taking chances in life is one thing. Taking chances with a working PC is quite another.

davetelford
07-09-2013, 12:55 AM
I am running the 8.1 preview, and so far all of my games run, except for MS titles. I.E FSX, FS2004, Flight. In fact this is the only trouble I am having.

Tom vd Horst
07-10-2013, 02:24 PM
Or install VMWare view and use that. Another alternative is Virtualbox is you want to give it a spin. if you install it in a VMDK file you can use it on all virtualisation compatible software

davetelford
07-14-2013, 02:15 PM
I have never tried Virtualbox, but the video driver for the free version of VMware is not up to the task of any modern games as the 3d support is almost non existent. Do you know if Virtualbox has good 3d graphics support?

FleetingThought
07-15-2013, 07:15 AM
I think I'll give 8.1 a year or so after release before I maybe get curious. I mean, what's there? Slightly easier access to the desktop?

Rustynail
10-20-2013, 01:03 PM
I have installed the release of Windows 8.1 Pro with Media center and reloaded all of my apps as instructed when installing the new release over the 8.1 Preview. Before installing FSX, I was so enthused because everything I had noticed in the preview about "glitches" here and there had been solved and all worked perfectly. So, I installed FSX and FSX Accelerator and actually flew the Cessna 172, but was having problems with audio on the flight control communications. Then I got the message that something had caused FSX to stop working and Microsoft would let me know when a solution was found. I have tried to restart FSX numerous times and as soon as the flight setup is complete and one hits "Fly Now", the Microsoft message appears that it has stopped working and I will be notified when a solution in found.

Does anyone else have success with FSX on Windows 8.1 (not the preview) or a similar failure?

Roger Wensley
10-20-2013, 02:57 PM
I would be interested to hear from anyone who has upgraded 8.0 to 8.1 now it has been released. It didn't fix problems with displaying land class in FS9.

theskyisthelimit99
10-20-2013, 09:47 PM
I ran the upgrade from 8.0 to 8.1.. and have run into some issues per this thread (http://forum.avsim.net/topic/424202-windows-81-updateupgrade-fsx/)

Automation, possible simconnect issues..

all revolving around (i think) the fact that 8.1 does an in place upgrade, NOT an update.. hence windows becomes windows.old and things are migrated over.. most things.. but not all things.. hence i think parts of fsx will break and need reinstalled..

my experience in the short time so far...

wizardwiz
10-22-2013, 11:38 AM
I managed to upgrade my windows 8 to windows 8.1 (Enterprise version)
My FSX seems to be working like it did on windows 8.
On the other hand, when I tired to install a fresh copy of windows 8.1 on a different hard drive, I couldn't run Prepar3d. Keep getting crashed all the time. I will try installing a fresh FSX on that other drive and see what's come up

britfrog
10-30-2013, 06:37 AM
yeah I have the same problem , I had problems with my nvidia drivers when it installed 8.1 so had to reinstall them. Natuarally I presumed something in fsx had been corrupted so re-installed fsx and all my scenery however it still throws out to a ctd. having looked at the M.S. site 10 people there say 8.1 is compatible with fsx whereas 90 say it isnt. I have spoken to saitek and they say they are trying to make joystick drivers as we spoke as they are different from win 8 maybe it is worth trying to fly using a mouse and no joystick to see if this is where the problem arises

greggerm
10-30-2013, 10:22 AM
Performed a full, clean re-installation to Win8.1 x64 a few weeks ago (on the pre-released RTM version, not the trial preview).

FSX (*and X-Plane, for that matter) performs just as well, if not better than if I was on Windows 7. No driver issues, no real technical issues at all. No joystick disconnections, either. I did run into an issue with FSUIPC crashing FSX under 8.1, but a new updated release (http://forum.simflight.com/topic/66139-updated-modules/#entry417029) of FSUIPC from Pete quickly quashed that issue and I have had no problems since.

Win8.1 seems to work just fine - better than Win7 from a speed and smoothness perspective, no compatibility issues thusfar, and smooth sailing for me.

ewarthan
10-30-2013, 12:46 PM
Any recent windows 8.1/FSX install troubles? Should I install brand new FSX gold/acceleration on brand new Lenovo K450 running 8.1?

wizardwiz
11-01-2013, 05:23 AM
OK, had a couple of days off so decided to do some checks on that. Got a separate hard drive, fresh windows 8.1 RTM, Enterprise x64 installation. Then installed FSX and right after it the Acceleration pack. No planes besides the basic planes. working with DX9 keep getting crash on me. couldn't make it to run with or without the UIAutomationCore.dll repair. switched to DX10 and it is working.
I have noticed that new ATI drivers (Latest beta 13.11V8) and it's predecessors do not support DX9. Version 13.4 (Former ATI release drivers won't do good on 8.1.
Currently installed Steve's DX10 fix (Shaders V3.2.2) and it seems to work reasonably. Still issues with Anti-aliasing with DX10 Preview but beside of that it's good to go as daily driver.

wizardwiz
11-01-2013, 05:32 PM
I think there are some problems with DX9 on windows 8.1.
I moved to DX10 and so far it's all well.
I will try to update DX9 later on next week and see if DX9 is working on FSX. foot note, it seems ATI drivers starting 13.6 and onward has some major problems with backward support with DX9 games.

mborgia
11-01-2013, 05:48 PM
Had problems with OOM crashes...a problem I thought I had fixed. When you upgrade from Windows 8, the IncreaseUserVA setting does not carry over and needs to be reset. Then a reboot later, I was fine....

theskyisthelimit99
11-03-2013, 12:55 AM
i've had a few crashes mostly on exit of FSX under 8.1.. the last i think was a kernel32 error.. one before an unknown module or similar.. Performance wise its been ok, short of the vanishing joystick issue.

LesR22
11-03-2013, 10:25 PM
exact same problem. was working fine with windows 8, except for occasional 'fsx has stopped working' with aircraft changes mid-flight. upgraded to 8.1, and now won't run. tried reinstalling, which worked for a little while with basic aircraft, but then the same problem started. goes right to desktop any time you try to do anything. have uninstalled, in anticipation of a fix becoming available sometime.

MysterRogers
11-08-2013, 06:00 AM
Having problems as well, sometimes it works, but more often than not it just crashes.

Update: After posting I did some more searching and found this: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CC4QtwIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dr-INQdJpm5A&ei=-tl8Uru-EILFtQap44CwAg&usg=AFQjCNF_NOHQ9y_Kd66_dm4qjYgsIajEQw&sig2=hYgZu-qxgzFHBfNtekEx0w&bvm=bv.56146854,d.Yms

Have run a few flights and not one crash yet.

plattyaj
11-08-2013, 07:44 AM
Having problems as well, sometimes it works, but more often than not it just crashes.

Update: After posting I did some more searching and found this: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CC4QtwIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dr-INQdJpm5A&ei=-tl8Uru-EILFtQap44CwAg&usg=AFQjCNF_NOHQ9y_Kd66_dm4qjYgsIajEQw&sig2=hYgZu-qxgzFHBfNtekEx0w&bvm=bv.56146854,d.Yms

Have run a few flights and not one crash yet.

So, the bottom line seems to be (right now) that you choose DX10, knowing that some things won't work right (though there are fixes for some of the DX10 issues too) or you get crashes. Hmmm, not sold on Windows 8.1 ;)