View Full Version : Why is the moon acting so weird?
NavidH
08-24-2011, 04:22 PM
Hi! Is there any way to make the moon in FS9 to stop acting so weird? What file tells Flight Sim how the moon should act?
Or is there no way to fix this issue? :)
Best regards
JSkorna
08-24-2011, 04:49 PM
Hi,
It's just the way it is. No different than why you can see the stars near the sun at dawn/dusk.
NavidH
08-24-2011, 06:37 PM
The stars can be removed just by remove "stars.dat" from the FS9 folder. I'm sure the moon can be removed to, but what i'm trying to figure out is how to make it show the right moon phases, because they are definitely not synced with the sun or even reality. Sometimes it switch from first quarter to full moon under the same night.
But at least it got almost the right position on the sky as in reality.
Hi,
It's just the way it is. No different than why you can see the stars near the sun at dawn/dusk.
JSkorna
08-24-2011, 07:37 PM
Then you get no stars so what kind of fix is that?
pivek
08-30-2011, 06:10 AM
What's wrong with the pic?
Sometimes the sun and the moon concur during daytime. At least this is what we normally see in tropical latitudes (Caribbean), especially at early morning hours and at late afternoon hours too; so I have no other refecence for stating the contrary, it's normal to see both at daytime.
JSkorna
08-30-2011, 08:30 AM
Right next to each other though, or nearly on opposite side of the sky?
StringBean
08-30-2011, 10:29 AM
I have no problem with the relative positions of the sun and moon in that shot. In fact this would be accurate prior to a solar eclipse.
It's the lighting of the moon that bugs me. It appears to be lit by something other than the sun.
peace,
the Bean
Allen Craig
08-30-2011, 11:14 AM
It appears to be lit by something other than the sun
In FS, it is. It has to 'make' its own light.
StringBean
08-30-2011, 12:38 PM
Actually the moon is not "lit" in FS as it is not a 3D model, simply a texture laid over the sky texture.
Using the OP's pic and an FS9 moon texture I threw together something that, IMO, would look much more believable.
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Now if I can do it, why can't FS?
peace,
the Bean
n4gix
08-30-2011, 12:46 PM
Because it wasn't coded that way, and there's not a single, solitary thing "we" can do to change that behavior. There's no point in worrying about things that're hard-coded into an obsolete, depecrated, unsupported bit of software... ;)
JSkorna
08-30-2011, 05:16 PM
As a science teacher I would like to see a real world un-edited shot of something like this in the real sky.
StringBean
08-30-2011, 07:19 PM
I believe the timing would be right at the end of this week, but I would not recommend anyone point a camera at the sun, without proper filters.
peace,
the Bean
JSkorna
08-30-2011, 09:32 PM
Hi,
So you think it is possible that the sun and moon are in nearly the same location in the sky and that you would still have a partial shadow of the earth visible on the moon?
StringBean
08-30-2011, 10:50 PM
Hi,
So you think it is possible that the sun and moon are in nearly the same location in the sky and that you would still have a partial shadow of the earth visible on the moon?
I would hope as a science teacher that you would know the only time the earth's shadow is visible on the moon is during a lunar eclipse.
Regarding the pic I posted, I seriously doubt you would ever be able to see the moon that close to the sun, without some special equipment. The sun is too bright.
In the days before and after a new moon, when the moon is between the earth and the sun, the moon is most definitely in the sky the same time as the sun.
I think we both know that the waxing crescent in my pic is most visible just after sunset.
peace,
the Bean
Big777jet
08-30-2011, 11:41 PM
StringBean,
How did you do this fix? Did you fix it? What did you do edit or calculator correct in somewhere cfg?
Thanks,
Stuart
StringBean
08-31-2011, 12:03 AM
StringBean,
How did you do this fix? Did you fix it? What did you do edit or calculator correct in somewhere cfg?
Thanks,
Stuart
I didn't.
All I did was edit the OP's original picture.
pivek
08-31-2011, 06:05 AM
You are right Jim; on opposite side of the sky
JSkorna
08-31-2011, 06:04 PM
"I would hope as a science teacher that you would know the only time the earth's shadow is visible on the moon is during a lunar eclipse."
You are kidding me right? The Earth's shadow is the ONLY cause of the phases of the moon. If you were to remove the earth, there would be NO phases of the moon.
I think you need to come to my Earth Science class starting next Tuesday afternoon!
StringBean
08-31-2011, 06:50 PM
"I would hope as a science teacher that you would know the only time the earth's shadow is visible on the moon is during a lunar eclipse."
You are kidding me right? The Earth's shadow is the ONLY cause of the phases of the moon. If you were to remove the earth, there would be NO phases of the moon.
I think you need to come to my Earth Science class starting next Tuesday afternoon!
If you remove the earth there would be no moon, so I guess your right about that.
Can you explain to me how the earth casts a shadow on the moon when the moon is between the earth and the sun?
That's what we call a new moon and what we on earth see is the dark side of the moon, not because of the earth's shadow, but due to the fact the sun is lighting the far side of the moon.
And when the earth is between the moon and the sun is known as a full moon and there is no earth shadow on the moon, unless we are experiencing an eclipse.
Maybe you should review this before Tuesday- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_cycle
peace,
the Bean
JSkorna
08-31-2011, 07:59 PM
All true!
torkermax
08-31-2011, 11:05 PM
OMG. I cant believe this conversation is even occuring. Is there no basic understanding of astronomy at all?
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