Alpha C-141 Cargo Doors?

[rhodges]

Anyone figured out how to open the cargo doors on C141.zip, the Alpha C-141?

Originally this was an FS2000 contribution upgraded for FS2004.

The instructions for the cargo doors in the readme file state the following:

"Cargo Hold doors - these use the Concorde visor keypress so that they can be opened in flight seperately from the other doors. This keypress is not normally assigned in the FS2002 default setup. To assign it you need to go to the Controller Assignments section under 'Settings'. The model Zipfile inlcudes a useful EXAMPLE SCREENSHOT which shows the screen you need. We recommend assigning the C and V keys for open and close respectively, although there are others you can use if you prefer."

Of course, there is no "Concorde visor keypress" as the Concorde, nor that option was included in FS2004 (Although the PSS Concorde imports just fine).

The readme also states the following:

"NOTE : you can also open the doors by using the switches on the panel."

I fail to locate the switches in question. I do not believe they are on the panel.

Any ideas?

Thanks:
RTH

[StringBean]

While the Concorde is not included in FS9, the commands are still available.

They are not assigned to any keystroke, by default. You have to do that manually in the Assignments part of the Settings.

peace,
the Bean

[StringBean]

With a little deeper digging I discovered the switches are there in the 2D panel, but don't work correctly.

With a little work they can be made to function, just takes a panel.cfg edit.

Here is what I did, with my changes in red.


[Window00]
file=C-141B_Pnl.bmp
size_mm=1024,768
position=7
visible=1
ident=MAIN_PANEL
sizeable=1
render_3d_window=1
window_size= 1.000, 1.000
window_pos= 0.000, 0.000

gauge00=f111_altimeter, 658,582,61,129
gauge01=f111_airspeed, 461,587,63,126
gauge02=B1B_Power, 901,596,34,114
gauge03=B1B_Fan, 944,596,34,113
gauge04=VC10_Flap, 262,714,36,36
gauge05=F111_altwarn, 420,534,31,32
gauge06=F105_Spoiler_Lamp, 392,559,15,14
gauge07=c130sw!cargo-close_sw, 550,466,20,20
gauge08=c130sw!cargo-open_sw, 578,466,20,20
...and here is what it looks like...
http://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/attachment.php?attachmentid=70588&stc=1&d=1278779223
The indicator lights do not function properly due to (I suspect) incorrect XML coding. That is, the close switch is always lit and the open switch is never lit regardless of the door position.

Here is the code for one of the switches, cargo-open_sw.xml...

<Gauge Name="cargo-tail-door_sw" >
<Element>
<Select>
<Failures>
<SYSTEM_ELECTRICAL_PANELS Action="0"/>
</Failures>
<Value>(A:CONCORDE VISOR POSITION PERCENT,more_than_a_half)</Value>
<Case Value="0">
<Image Name="open_off.bmp" ImageSizes="1,1,1,1"/>
</Case>
<Case Value="1">
<Image Name="open_on.bmp" Bright="Yes" ImageSizes="1,1,1,1"/>
</Case>
</Select>
</Element>
<Mouse>
<Cursor Type="Hand"/>
<Click Event="INCREASE_CONCORDE_NOSE_VISOR_FULLY"/>
</Mouse>
</Gauge>

If someone sees an edit to be made that would fix the indicator light, I would like to see it.

peace,
the Bean

[opaplano]

Great bit of work Bean - :D

I added you edits and it works just fine - complete with sound!

The lights both function properly for me - they turn green shortly after the action has been selected.

[rhodges]

Thanks for the replies folks:

I stand corrected.

I contacted Peter by email.

I did not realize it, but the Concord commands ARE included in the FS2004 menu, even though the bird is not.

Made those assignments, and the doors work fine.

I sure will try the edits as well.

Sorry for the blindness.
RTH

[jfwhiten]

Hello Mr. Bean,
(I like your name...grin)

I am having the same issues you discussed and seemed to have fixed. Is there any chance you could send me a copy of your panel? Also, if you are interested, I have a very good looking C-141A that Dave Sweetman did for me in the livery of the 63rd MAW (circa 1970's) I would be happy to share with you.

I have attached my panel as I thought looking at it might give you a clue as to what I am doing wrong. As you will see, it looks nothing like yours.

Thank you very much in advance

Jim

// P WALLAERT 11:23 13/09/2009
//
// LOCKHEED C5 GALAXY
//
//
[Window Titles]
Window00=Main Panel
Window01=Radio
Window02=GPS
Window03=DOORS

[VIEWS]
VIEW_FORWARD_WINDOWS=Main_Panel,RADIO_STACK_PANEL,GPS_PANEL
VIEW_FORWARD_DIR=0.1, 0.0, 0.0


//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window00]
file=Panel.bmp
size_mm=1050,840
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=7
visible=1
ident=Main_Panel
window_size= 1.000, 1.000
window_pos= 0.000, 0.000

Gauge00=C5!RMI_Round, 65,623, 62, 62
gauge01=C5!AirSpeed, 130,623, 67,149
Gauge02=C5!Attitude, 200,623, 94,100
Gauge03=C5!HSI_Old, 200,725, 94,100
Gauge04=C5!Radar_Altimeter, 297,552, 62, 62
Gauge05=C5!Altimeter, 297,617, 67,148
Gauge06=C5!Radar_Green, 411,691, 80, 60
Gauge07=C5!Std_By_Att, 560,605, 48, 45
Gauge08=C5!N1_12_Vert, 551,696, 25, 72
Gauge09=C5!N1_34_Vert, 576,696, 25, 72
Gauge10=C5!EGT_12_Vert, 612,678, 17, 93
Gauge11=C5!EGT_34_Vert, 629,678, 17, 93
Gauge12=C5!EPR_12_Vert, 653,678, 17, 93
Gauge13=C5!EPR_34_Vert, 670,678, 17, 93
Gauge14=C5!FF_12_Vert, 692,678, 17, 93
Gauge15=C5!FF_34_Vert, 709,678, 17, 93
Gauge16=C5!Elevator, 619,570, 47, 47
Gauge17=C5!Ailerons, 669,570, 47, 47
Gauge18=C5!Flaps, 719,570, 47, 47
Gauge19=C5!Trim, 817,597, 64, 64
Gauge20=C5!Rudder, 819,664, 63, 63
Gauge21=C5!Std_By_Att, 993,557, 48, 48
gauge22=C5!AirSpeed, 986,616, 67,152
Gauge23=C5!DIG_N1_E1, 545,679, 30, 13
Gauge24=C5!DIG_N1_E2, 577,679, 30, 13
Gauge25=C5!Gear_Light_L, 886,600, 20, 16
Gauge26=C5!Gear_Light_L, 886,618, 20, 16
Gauge27=C5!Gear_Light_C, 906,583, 20, 16
Gauge28=C5!Gear_Light_R, 927,601, 20, 16
Gauge29=C5!Gear_Light_R, 927,619, 20, 16
Gauge30=C5!Gear Lever, 908,629, 24, 67
Gauge31=C5!Gear_In_Trans, 893,697, 15, 15
Gauge32=C5!Gear_Door, 934,697, 15, 15
Gauge33=C5!Annun_1, 632,621,133, 42
Gauge34=C5!Annun_2, 200,592, 94, 30
Gauge35=C5!AutoSpoiler, 419, 21, 22, 34
gauge36=C5!Clock, 65,690, 62, 62
gauge37=C5!Fuel_Status, 1,755,100, 72

[StringBean]

Your panel looks like it is for a C-5, not a C-141.

The C-141 did not make the transfer to my new computer, so I do not have the plane any more.

You could download it for yourself, the edits shown were the only changes I made.

You might want to edit your post and remove the e-mail address so it does not get flooded with spam.

peace,
the Bean