View Full Version : ATIS comes on then won't turn off - EVER
Craig
03-07-2010, 10:59 AM
Having a problem with ATIS coming on by itself, and I can't turn it off!
Highly irritating, to say the least.
I've never read about this in the forums. Is there a fix you know of, or how would I completely remove ATIS?
Thanks for any help,
Craig
Big777jet
03-07-2010, 11:05 AM
Did you tune COMM change? It will stop. Did you following instructions by ATC press 1. 2. 3. ? If you don't see message ATC menu box on your screen front of cockpit. Look for keyboard "~" usually keyboard is locate far left top. Press it. You'll see ATC.
Hope you figure it out how to use communicate ATC.
Stuart
Craig
03-07-2010, 11:13 AM
Thanks for your response
It comes on by itself as I am using ATC
Been simming a long time, I know how to use ATC
In between transmissions, when I have nothing to transmit it comes on by itself and stays on with seemingly no way to turn it off.
What EXACTLY do you mean by tune comm change, please?
Big777jet
03-07-2010, 11:25 AM
Thanks for your response
It comes on by itself as I am using ATC
Been simming a long time, I know how to use ATC
In between transmissions, when I have nothing to transmit it comes on by itself and stays on with seemingly no way to turn it off.
What EXACTLY do you mean by tune comm change, please?
Do you have radio shack? I don't know what aircraft are you flying on. Press shift + 5 or any number if you see pop it up radio shack then change tune 120.50 change 120.60 if ATIS turn it off. It takes a few seconds ATIS will turn it off until sentence ends.
Stuart
HoratioWondersocks
03-07-2010, 01:45 PM
Thanks for your response
It comes on by itself as I am using ATC
Been simming a long time, I know how to use ATC
In between transmissions, when I have nothing to transmit it comes on by itself and stays on with seemingly no way to turn it off.
What EXACTLY do you mean by tune comm change, please?
Hello
Now this is an interesting post.Like you i am an experienced simmer,and i know how to tune my comms nav radios etc. and am completly au-fait with ATC but I have had a similar problem in the vicinity of DAAG (i think it was)where i would do the normal take off climb etc and then i too would also get this continuous ATIS message and no matter what i did could not get rid of it.If atc tried to communicate with me that was fine, but i simply could not reply in turn as this ATIS message would block my attempts in fact ATC would cancel my IFR for not replying to its instructions.I tried changing my comm freqs etc but to no avail.The only way it would resolve itself was range,after a certain amount of flt time i would get clear of the blocking ATISs frequency and all would be normal again
PS Not quite sure it was daag(Algeria)or whether it was an airport in Morocco ,but was definitely in that part of north Africa.I have never fixed the problem and remain wary of the rogue ATIS .
cheers Andy
mav316
03-07-2010, 02:34 PM
For a minute I was lost..ATIS is that banner that scrolls across the top of the screen giving you Airport weather conditions and traffic alerts. Yea at one point in my experience with that annoying thing I couldn't figure out how to shut it up. It would just keep repeating itself! :mad:
Then I figured out how to shut it up, open your ATC window and chose ATIS again, I think this mutes the ATIS and when the banner completes the message it tunes itself off (I might be wrong). It may be just selecting another option in the ATC window that tunes to a different frequency other than ATIS, causing it to mute itself and then tune itself out when the banner is completely read across the screen.
I will go run the sim and find out right now and let you know. Give me two minutes lol.
Edit: If ATIS is activated all you need to do is select whatever option is in the ATC window to shut it up. on the ground choose option 1 for tuning to "wherever you are" ground. You notice ATIS gets muted, once it completes the text transmission it automatically shuts itself off. Same condition when up in the air, If you accidentallly activate ATIS all you need to do is contact "Wherever you are" tower and this mutes the ATIS. Just like all times the ATIS banner will scroll and then just shut off. ATIS option is only available when you contact and Airports Tower.
JSkorna
03-07-2010, 04:12 PM
Hi All,
The problem is that there are a few FS Center frequencies that are exactly the same as a local airport's ATIS frequency so you get a constant loop of weather information. I know in Africa there is a least one place where this happens.
Big777jet
03-07-2010, 04:47 PM
Oh, by the way, maybe you could try get AFCAD Editor. Open airport code. Click on lists then click on Comm frequencies. If you see ATIS highlight and click delete if you want to rid of it. It's up to you.
Stuart
napamule2
03-07-2010, 07:11 PM
I thought it is required that you are 'informed' of the weather (and thus KNOW the code word, provided in ATIS, as 'Alpha thru XXX', and that you must be 'in possesion of' before you initiate contact with tower on approach.
The wording is something like '... this is (your ID) with 'Alpha' (meaning you listened to and are aware of the weather and got the latest weather by knowing this 'word' (and thus the latest weather report.) Without that 'code' word you are not getting anywhere with ATC. Just MY take on that.
Forget the radios, bgl's, etc. Just listen to report and get the code 'word' and use it on initial contact. I don't do ATC too much anymore. Someone with more ATC expertice will elaborate.
(NO SDK 'GURU' SNOBS ARE NEEDED, OR REQUIRED!!)
CB
Napamule
srgalahad
03-08-2010, 01:24 AM
ATIS (Automatic Terminal Information Service) is a constantly broadcast set of information on a discrete frequency. Each available one is listed for the relevant airport and can be tuned any time you are in range (no need to select it in the ATC dialogue/number choice). The 'default' range is not fixed but is approx. 75 nm or the point where an approach clearance/vectors would be initiated (dependent on altitude) so at FL350, about 100 miles, at 8000 about 30 miles +/-. In r/l the transmitters are designed for about a 100nm range at major airports, 35-50 as smaller ones - based on types of a/c normally in use. ATIS frequncies can be found in the FS Map by 'mousing over' the airport, or in the GPS page (3?) that lists the nav/comm frequencies for the selected airport.
It is "recommended" that pilots listen to the ATIS before contacting ATC but there are several reasons why it's not always possible (most typical is where you transition several ATC sectors one after the other and cannot be expected to get the ATIS in between) so if you have it, you tell ATC on initial contact - the code letter is so ATC can confirm it it the latest message (messages change on the release of the hourly wx observation and/OR certain significant changes to the wx or changes in airport conditions and active runways).
In FS it's added to the ATC dialogue set for convenience but you can manually tune and listen to any ATIS within range at any time. There are a couple of quirks I've found..
Hi All,
The problem is that there are a few FS Center frequencies that are exactly the same as a local airport's ATIS frequency so you get a constant loop of weather information. I know in Africa there is a least one place where this happens.
That's true Jim. IIRC, there are at least half a dozen that were coded incorrectly into the FS database.
Additionally, there are times (glitches or finger troubles) with dual NavComm radios that both get tuned to the ATIS frequency. If you use the ATC dialogue to make selections (as opposed to tuning the radio manually) it will make the selections on Comm 1, leaving Comm 2 on the ATIS freq. Check that the audio selector is not selected to "both" as the audio source and tune one 'click' off the set frequencies and then return to see if it kills it.
There are also a couple of places where, using the ATC dialogue choices, the FS engine will make errors and switch you back to the wrong frequency when you make the menu selection and bingo! you get the ATIS, or ground, or the wrong ATC sector.
Remember, other than for the 'appearance of reality', there is no need to use the ATC function in FS. In fact I quit using it due to the horrendously unsafe errors that are built into it.
(What's that? the winds are 250 @ 28 but the active is 34?? Just because 34 has an ILS and is longer than 28 which has an ILS too? -- who cares that a 90* 28kt crosswind exceeds most aircraft max. certified crosswind component by several knots -- and MSFS ATC won't usually override this programming and assign the runway most into wind until wind speeds are >36kts)
Default ATC will not vector you or AI aircraft around traffic so you can be cut off, run over or generally mauled, beaten and shredded. It's only working functions are to provide landing and takeoff clearances, altitude assignments and vectors to final. Since it's basically VFR up there as far as traffic is concerned, I gave up.
Rob
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