Re: ILS Approaches - HELP

[johnw12]

Hi there,

( Someone has to post the first message, huh? Hope someone will
help me and post the first reply... )
I've been having this problem lately. It seems that the approach hold
feature from the autopilot never works with me. As I see on the airport,
all aircraft land right over the centerline, but when I'm back home at
FS, it does not.
Sometimes I start the approach some 20 or 30 nm out, but it seems it
cannot center on the localizer, and when I'm at 1 or 2 nm he starts to roll
to one side or other and then I have to choices:
1- Crash
2- Disconnect and try to align on the manual. ( which does not work on
a heavy 747 or even 737 ) - the results are awful.

Thank you!

Ricky
rwickert@netpage.com.br

[johnw12]

Hi there,

( Someone has to post the first message, huh? Hope someone will
help me and post the first reply... )
I've been having this problem lately. It seems that the approach hold
feature from the autopilot never works with me. As I see on the airport,
all aircraft land right over the centerline, but when I'm back home at
FS, it does not.
Sometimes I start the approach some 20 or 30 nm out, but it seems it
cannot center on the localizer, and when I'm at 1 or 2 nm he starts to roll
to one side or other and then I have to choices:
1- Crash
2- Disconnect and try to align on the manual. ( which does not work on
a heavy 747 or even 737 ) - the results are awful.

Thank you!

Ricky
rwickert@netpage.com.br

Ricky,

I don't know if anyone replied to your message or not but here is one
solution methods:

1. If flying the approach using your approach hold function within
the autopilot, ALL alignments ( localizer, glideslope) must be
made PRIOR to arrival to the outer marker. At that point, the only
adjustment to make is to drop the gears.

2. "Thou shall not land any aircraft with the autopilot ON, as you
do not take off with it on"

3. At the middle marker, flip off the autopilot, be prepared for
a nose up tendency. Set your trim setting to level flight at
the outer marker so when you turn off the autopilot, the nose
tendency will be minimized. corss the thresh-hole level, cut
the power and fly the aircraft to the ground. use thrust
reversers to slow you down.

If it works in a Lear35, it should work in anything. Try it and good
luck.

johnw12@juno.com

[wickert]

John,

Thanks for your tips.
I've been told that some aircraft have this effect more than others ( ie,
an
737 would land on the numbers and a 747 on the same situation would not ).
Just wondering, is this the real procedure for a landing? Hopefully
there'll
be some pilot here which could tell me how things really go in real life.

Thanks anyway,

Ricky
rwickert@netpage.com.br


Ricky,

I don't know if anyone replied to your message or not but here is one
solution methods:

1. If flying the approach using your approach hold function within
the autopilot, ALL alignments ( localizer, glideslope) must be
made PRIOR to arrival to the outer marker. At that point, the only
adjustment to make is to drop the gears.

2. "Thou shall not land any aircraft with the autopilot ON, as you
do not take off with it on"

3. At the middle marker, flip off the autopilot, be prepared for
a nose up tendency. Set your trim setting to level flight at
the outer marker so when you turn off the autopilot, the nose
tendency will be minimized. corss the thresh-hole level, cut
the power and fly the aircraft to the ground. use thrust
reversers to slow you down.

If it works in a Lear35, it should work in anything. Try it and good
luck.

johnw12@juno.com

[groom]

Hi there, the best thing to do about this situation is to get rid of your
computer and get a job.


( Someone has to post the first message, huh? Hope someone will
help me and post the first reply... )
I've been having this problem lately. It seems that the approach hold
feature from the autopilot never works with me. As I see on the airport,
all aircraft land right over the centerline, but when I'm back home at
FS, it does not.
Sometimes I start the approach some 20 or 30 nm out, but it seems it
cannot center on the localizer, and when I'm at 1 or 2 nm he starts to roll
to one side or other and then I have to choices:
1- Crash
2- Disconnect and try to align on the manual. ( which does not work on
a heavy 747 or even 737 ) - the results are awful.

Thank you!

Ricky
rwickert@netpage.com.br

[wickert]

Thanks a lot. Now, can you tell me of an airliner which will accept
14-year old kids as First Officer or anything like that? Just kidding,
I know such place does not exist... What I am trying to do is to
simulate ( that's why we have Flight Simulators and such ) this kind
of job until I am 21 and therefore able to be a pilot.
And I've heard from real-life pilots, which fly real jets for real airliners,

that in real CAT III landings they don't touch the yoke at all, the
airplane will approach and land itself. So all I want is to be able to
simulate this here at home.

Thanks a lot anyway,

Ricky
rwickert@netpage.com.br


Hi there, the best thing to do about this situation is to get rid of your
computer and get a job.





( Someone has to post the first message, huh? Hope someone will
help me and post the first reply... )
I've been having this problem lately. It seems that the approach hold
feature from the autopilot never works with me. As I see on the airport,
all aircraft land right over the centerline, but when I'm back home at
FS, it does not.
Sometimes I start the approach some 20 or 30 nm out, but it seems it
cannot center on the localizer, and when I'm at 1 or 2 nm he starts to roll
to one side or other and then I have to choices:
1- Crash
2- Disconnect and try to align on the manual. ( which does not work on
a heavy 747 or even 737 ) - the results are awful.

Thank you!

Ricky
rwickert@netpage.com.br

[rownstrata]

Thanks a lot. Now, can you tell me of an airliner which will accept
14-year old kids as First Officer or anything like that? Just kidding,
I know such place does not exist... What I am trying to do is to
simulate ( that's why we have Flight Simulators and such ) this kind
of job until I am 21 and therefore able to be a pilot.
And I've heard from real-life pilots, which fly real jets for real airliners,



that in real CAT III landings they don't touch the yoke at all, the
airplane will approach and land itself. So all I want is to be able to
simulate this here at home.

Thanks a lot anyway,

Ricky
rwickert@netpage.com.br


Acutally.....most schools will let you start training at 16-16 1/2 (I'm 16 now,
and have 11.2 hrs, and after i polish up some stuff, my instructor said I'd be
ready to solo, although you can't actually get your private certificate until
you're 17 (FAA regulations).