View Full Version : Re: Ground texpoly does not stay visible....????
cloudandy
09-07-2001, 10:47 AM
Paul
Once I had this with FS98. After creating a large extended polygon with
a long point list, parts of the polygon suddenly flickered and faded away.
After splitting the polygon into two parts, it was gone.
Sometimes FS has problems with such polygons containing long pointlists,
but I donīt know if there exists a "visible limit" of points and where it
lies. The scadocs are talking about 128 points, I donīt know if it is valid
for FS2K.
Andreas
Using a Texpoly here to cover the ground and works just fine if viewed from the
South, as soon as you cross the plane of the most southern edge, no matter if
your way east or west or at any altitude, it just disappears.
Any position north of its southern edge it never shows up.
I have messed around with the V1/V2 as well as different perspective calls but
all to no avail.
does anyone have an idea please?
Thank you
Paul Leatzaw
Here is the very long code:
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leatzaw
09-08-2001, 11:36 PM
Thanks for the reply Andreas,
I tried chopin up the texpoly into smaller sizes, no go, same effect as before,
very stable until you cross its southern edge then poof! gone.
I dont have much experience with ground polys, but as far as I can read in
the scasm docs this has no reason to disappear like it does.
Its as if FS thinks its vertical and that Ive just past through it when
actually its horizontal. there has to be somthing to this. maybe I should try
to disect some other sceneries and see if that tells me anything.
Paul
Paul
Once I had this with FS98. After creating a large extended polygon with
a long point list, parts of the polygon suddenly flickered and faded away.
After splitting the polygon into two parts, it was gone.
Sometimes FS has problems with such polygons containing long pointlists,
but I donīt know if there exists a "visible limit" of points and where it
lies. The scadocs are talking about 128 points, I donīt know if it is valid
for FS2K.
Andreas
Using a Texpoly here to cover the ground and works just fine if viewed from the
South, as soon as you cross the plane of the most southern edge, no matter if
your way east or west or at any altitude, it just disappears.
Any position north of its southern edge it never shows up.
I have messed around with the V1/V2 as well as different perspective calls but
all to no avail.
does anyone have an idea please?
Thank you
Paul Leatzaw
Here is the very long code:
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cloudandy
09-09-2001, 09:06 AM
Thanks for the reply Andreas,
I tried chopin up the texpoly into smaller sizes, no go, same effect as before,
very stable until you cross its southern edge then poof! gone.
I dont have much experience with ground polys, but as far as I can read in
the scasm docs this has no reason to disappear like it does.
Its as if FS thinks its vertical and that Ive just past through it when
actually its horizontal. there has to be somthing to this. maybe I should try
to disect some other sceneries and see if that tells me anything.
Paul
You probably have flattened the area around the polygon, covering all of
it. And if you have layered the poly with n*4, I donīt know... never seen
such.
Andreas
Paul
Once I had this with FS98. After creating a large extended polygon with
a long point list, parts of the polygon suddenly flickered and faded away.
After splitting the polygon into two parts, it was gone.
Sometimes FS has problems with such polygons containing long pointlists,
but I donīt know if there exists a "visible limit" of points and where it
lies. The scadocs are talking about 128 points, I donīt know if it is valid
for FS2K.
Andreas
Using a Texpoly here to cover the ground and works just fine if viewed from the
South, as soon as you cross the plane of the most southern edge, no matter if
your way east or west or at any altitude, it just disappears.
Any position north of its southern edge it never shows up.
I have messed around with the V1/V2 as well as different perspective calls but
all to no avail.
does anyone have an idea please?
Thank you
Paul Leatzaw
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leatzaw
09-10-2001, 12:13 AM
Andreas,
Sorry, I don't understand the reply.."have flattened...Layered the poly
n*4..."???
Let me though give some details, this texpoly is sitting on meshwith1text TB
code that is on hole seeds and the occasional area16N, although I feel that it
is mostly not relevant as I have methodically removed various scenery elements
with no change in the result ..
.Beside what you have suggested, could this be a concave/vex poly issue as it
is mapped by TB to follow the terrain(so we can use _LM textures)?
Paul
Thanks for the reply Andreas,
I tried chopin up the texpoly into smaller sizes, no go, same effect as before,
very stable until you cross its southern edge then poof! gone.
I dont have much experience with ground polys, but as far as I can read in
the scasm docs this has no reason to disappear like it does.
Its as if FS thinks its vertical and that Ive just past through it when
actually its horizontal. there has to be somthing to this. maybe I should try
to disect some other sceneries and see if that tells me anything.
Paul
You probably have flattened the area around the polygon, covering all of
it. And if you have layered the poly with n*4, I donīt know... never seen
such.
Andreas
Paul
Once I had this with FS98. After creating a large extended polygon with
a long point list, parts of the polygon suddenly flickered and faded away.
After splitting the polygon into two parts, it was gone.
Sometimes FS has problems with such polygons containing long pointlists,
but I donīt know if there exists a "visible limit" of points and where it
lies. The scadocs are talking about 128 points, I donīt know if it is valid
for FS2K.
Andreas
Using a Texpoly here to cover the ground and works just fine if viewed from the
South, as soon as you cross the plane of the most southern edge, no matter if
your way east or west or at any altitude, it just disappears.
Any position north of its southern edge it never shows up.
I have messed around with the V1/V2 as well as different perspective calls but
all to no avail.
does anyone have an idea please?
Thank you
Paul Leatzaw
Here is the very long code:
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cloudandy
09-10-2001, 10:47 AM
Andreas,
Sorry, I don't understand the reply.."have flattened...Layered the poly
n*4..."???
Let me though give some details, this texpoly is sitting on meshwith1text TB
code that is on hole seeds and the occasional area16N, although I feel that it
is mostly not relevant as I have methodically removed various scenery elements
with no change in the result ..
.Beside what you have suggested, could this be a concave/vex poly issue as it
is mapped by TB to follow the terrain(so we can use _LM textures)?
Paul
Hello
n*4 means the "layer" for gound polygons which should be a mutliple of 4
(4,8,12,16...). This makes shure that the z-buffer-flicker wonīt occur.
I suppose your MeshWith1Tex is over flattened terrain (you are using Area16N).
Although this should flatten, have you tried an additional flatten entry
in the scenery.cfg ( not instead of, but additional to Area16N )?
I have no experience with MeshWith1Tex, although it makes nice photoreal ground
texturing. But I donīt know if there are new surprises/problems when adding
texpolys over it.
Andreas
Thanks for the reply Andreas,
I tried chopin up the texpoly into smaller sizes, no go, same effect as before,
very stable until you cross its southern edge then poof! gone.
I dont have much experience with ground polys, but as far as I can read in
the scasm docs this has no reason to disappear like it does.
Its as if FS thinks its vertical and that Ive just past through it when
actually its horizontal. there has to be somthing to this. maybe I should try
to disect some other sceneries and see if that tells me anything.
Paul
You probably have flattened the area around the polygon, covering all of
it. And if you have layered the poly with n*4, I donīt know... never seen
such.
Andreas
Paul
Once I had this with FS98. After creating a large extended polygon with
a long point list, parts of the polygon suddenly flickered and faded away.
After splitting the polygon into two parts, it was gone.
Sometimes FS has problems with such polygons containing long pointlists,
but I donīt know if there exists a "visible limit" of points and where it
lies. The scadocs are talking about 128 points, I donīt know if it is valid
for FS2K.
Andreas
Using a Texpoly here to cover the ground and works just fine if viewed from the
South, as soon as you cross the plane of the most southern edge, no matter if
your way east or west or at any altitude, it just disappears.
Any position north of its southern edge it never shows up.
I have messed around with the V1/V2 as well as different perspective calls but
all to no avail.
does anyone have an idea please?
Thank you
Paul Leatzaw
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