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someone
08-06-2004, 05:44 PM
Haven't flown the Cardinal in a while, so I dicided to do some pattern work in it today. When I was done, I taxied to the ramp and parked it next to a 172. When I got out to tie her down, something didn't look right. I slewed over to the 172, and noticed the 177 is alot smaller than the 172. I've never actually seen a 172 and a 177 side by side, but I always thought the 177 was a little bigger than the 172.

http://img66.exs.cx/img66/3697/172-177.jpg

someone
08-06-2004, 06:08 PM
Found the specs for a 172S and 177B, the 177 is a little bit smaller, but only a few inches in height and wingspan.

Cessna 177B
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Wing span - 35ft 6in
Length - 27ft 8in
Height - 8ft 7in


Cessna 172S
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Wing span - 36ft 1in
Length - 26ft 11in
Height - 8ft 11in

Lou_Betti
08-06-2004, 10:11 PM
Do not make the assumption that all FS aircraft models are built to the exact same scale, thus a comparsion of two aircraft from two different modelers may produce such results, and have no relationship to the actual aircraft's size relationship in real life. Ultimately, both models can be 100% accurate, yet both can also be of a different scale.

The MS C-172 is built to a larger scale than our 177, yet both are accurate in dimensions, shape, etc.

In essence, one could build an accurate model of the 177, and have it the same size as another modeler's 747. Okay, an extreme example, but you get the point. ;-)

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Icelander
08-07-2004, 12:00 AM
Hmm...interesting

But Lou,...isnīt there an absolute unit of measure in flight simulator itself. For instance isnīt a feet travelled from a certain point, weather ascending, descending or just moving horizontally always the same unit of length meaning that either one of the aircraft or both, although accurate in dimensions to themselves (wich as you correctly pointed out wouldnīt change even though you would enlarge it to the size of of boeing 747, or alaska to use something static and unchanging in size in FS itself)are off towards the flight simulator "world". I mean even if you were to enlarge either one of the aircraft to the size of a boeing 747 (or an A380) the feet measured by the altimeters wouldnīt change size with them. Just wondering;)


...and by the way, I own all your aircraft (legally I might add;)) and am an avid dreamfleet supporter, thanks for making such great add-ons, really helps kill the time on slow days;)

Jon S.

Iceland

Icelander
08-07-2004, 12:04 AM
arrrghh,...

I just read that over and I sound like such a smart a**. NOT the intention,...Iīm really just being curious, sorry:)

Jon S.

Iceland

cpurick
08-07-2004, 11:01 AM
Yes, but the simulator "world" has a scale of its own. An airplane with a 30' wingspan should span halfway across a 60'-wide rwy. How close are you, and the default C172S, to the scale of the environment? It looks like you're scaled maybe 10-15% smaller than theirs -- but that doesn't mean theirs is scaled correctly!

I realize this is only cosmetic, and like the other user I'm not trying to be a #####-head. But it seems to me this would be a pretty simple adjustment in gMax.