View Full Version : Am I missing something?
04-26-2001, 11:42 AM
All you dedicated X-Plane fans prove I must be missing something. I loaded it for the first time (demo version) the other day, and I was totally underwhelmed. What I saw when it finally loaded (took waaay too long) was a very blue-tinged runway with a jet on it. It took me a while to figure out how to configure my controls, but I got some action going there. However, my frame rates were about .5 - 1 fps. It was kinda like watching a slideshow, if you know what I mean.
Here are my specs:
Athlon 900Mhz (classic slot-a, not thunderbird)
ATI Rage Fury Pro 32Mb video
Windows 2000 Pro (I know, but I need this computer for programming, too)
My guess is that although the X-Plane site says it'll work with this ATI card, it's really holding me back. Everything else about my system should perform great as far as I can tell. FS2000 works like a dream, if you can believe that, using this setup. I know that the OpenGL vs. DX8 issues mean that the two require different hardware, too. But 1 fps? Anyone know what gives with this? I'd really like to add this to my list of sims, but it's been a depressing experience so far.
04-27-2001, 11:47 AM
I'm using a raggedy old Compaq laptop with a 433 AMD and X-Plane
runs smoothly at 15 FPS. FS98 screams at 40 to 65 FPS and FS2000
limps along at 4 to 9 FPS. Go figure.
04-27-2001, 12:06 PM
Im running a PIII 800EB 256-133RAM, NVIDI 32 GeForce-2
I get 50fps on the runway, never lower then 25
up too 100+ at altitude
extremely smooth, 32 bits very high resolution of scenery
I just took a look at my FS2000, was getting
8 fps over Manhattan full extreme scenery from outside view (higher if I stay in my boring cockpit) , usually 25 fps on the runway and FS2000 is so jerky when you switch to outside view,,,,I turned it off and may never return. I love X-plane.
04-27-2001, 03:53 PM
These messages just prove that there's something extremely wrong with my setup! Can anyone spot the bullet that's bringing the whole thing to a (virtual) halt? My guess is that it's either the video card or the operating system.
And how about that blue-ish tinge to everything? The whole screen, whether viewing from the cockpit or spot-plane, is just very cyan colored, and not pleasing in the least to look at.
I'd really like to try this sim! Help!
04-28-2001, 07:53 PM
I have had a similar problem with the 1 fps...(UNBELIEVABLY SLOW!!) anyway, you need to download the latest videocard drivers, and make sure hardware acceleration is on, and check your OpenGL settings.
04-30-2001, 07:09 PM
TB900, 256MB RAM, KT7-raid, 20 MB HD, RADEON VIVO and I get extremly smooth performance. Your problem definitiely sounds video card driver related. Go to www.rage3d.com and look for new drivers for your card. Also delete all x-plane *.prf files to reset your x-plane set-up to default settings; easy to do this for any set-up problems.
Let ius know, yopur system should be rocking.
05-01-2001, 12:41 AM
Hey there! I dont know if youre still having problems with x-plane, or even watching this forum or not, but I have almost an identical setup as yours........
Athlon 850 (slot A non-tbird)
Rage Fury Pro 32MB
......I get a very fluid simulation! The only thing that I could think of that would make your frame rate so low is that....
1. X-Plane is not recognizing your card
2. You dont have the latest drivers installed for that card
.....When I first downloaded the demo, I didnt know at the time that I had a 2MB video card...I was lied to on Ebay....Anyways, I went out and bought that Rage Fury Pro, and it worked awesome! Mine is an AGP card, and I set my AGP speed to 4x. Although I dont remember where it is, there is a box somewhere in X-Plane that tells you what card you are running the game on. Hope this helps!
05-03-2001, 11:33 PM
Now that is encouraging news. I'm gonna go pick through the prefs right now and see if I can figure out how to tell X-Plane what card I've got. Thanks for the post!
05-04-2001, 10:03 PM
Halleluiah!! I got the latest Rage Fury Pro drivers, and after a little dinking around (re-installing the card) everything is on the up-and-up. Now I'm actually seeing X-Plane perform properly!! First impressions: (not, repeat NOT trying to start a war here, to each their own) Compared to MSFS2000, shockingly fantastic frame rates and good flight modelling. Shockingly bad scenery, panels and general graphics. But then, people want different things out of a sim. I must say that I can see a place for this one!! Thanks for the help, everyone.
05-06-2001, 08:47 PM
glad to see you got it working...
and WELCOME to the X-Plane community
05-06-2001, 09:30 PM
Actually, I agree. The panels are a lot less detailed. However, I like the simplicity of X's panels. The only beef I have is that you can't assign joystick buttons to ALL of X's functions. For example, I'd like to use two of the buttons on my Logitech Wingman to handle fuel mixture, but that's not an option.
05-19-2001, 11:45 PM
I am Very glad that you got your sim up and runin'
I also suggest you keep up witht he latest versions of the game
they really are worth it!
I have the 5.52 cd vercion cd , but The cd only helps to load some scenery and to let you run the game wthout the interruption of your joystick.
Now I have the 5.66 version and trustme, it i=really rOCKS! ;-)
Also if you have any questions about x-plane feel free to email me , I'll help you out if I can.
06-03-2001, 12:00 AM
Time to start downloading the add-on's with custom panels. Better yet, give Plane Maker a whirl and try to make your own. It's a bit of rewarding fun!!!
06-04-2001, 01:48 PM
Panels: I just saw a couple of awesome panels recently. I can't remember which one, but one of the panels I saw was every bit as good as an MSFS panel. I think it may have even been the "Speed Bird" default plane.
06-08-2001, 05:02 PM
Yeah, that is a particularly nice panel. In fact, my general dissatisfaction w/other X-Plane panels is partly due to the fact that I saw the Speedbird panel in an ad first, and just assumed that was the quality of all of them. Oh well. Some of them are really nice, though.
I have to say, I've tried three civvie flight sims to date: FS2000, X-Plane and the new Fly!2. Bearing in mind that I really am a junkie for visuals, Fly!2 actually takes the cake for me. It's got some really dynamite, functional panels, and hands-down the best visual models of the three. That said, it also has by far the most limited range of aircraft. Then there are the legendary program bugs... but in all honestly it flies really well for me.
'K, back to the discussion of X-Plane, already in progress!
06-12-2001, 02:11 PM
Why do you all have only 256 RAM? You can pick up another stick for almost nothing nowadays, with a rebate. I have all three slots filled with 128ers on my IWill Duron 750
PS: FS2000 full right sliders, Voodoo 3, 25 FPS on T/o, PSS 744 at big area.
07-04-2001, 01:14 PM
The sick thing about my RAM situation is that I've actually *got* 512Mb -- that's right, another DIMM is stashed in a drawer in my shop. My unfortunate problem is that my motherboard, cheap piece of (never mind) that it is, doesn't like two DIMMs being installed. It won't even boot with both in place. However, if I take one out -- either one, it doesn't matter -- everything is fine. And before you ask, I've tried every combination of RAM/slot in the machine, and always get the same result. My advice: stay away from VIA-chipset motherboards, or at least mine, which is a Soyo K7VIA. Now if I want to get all that RAM working, I've got to replace the motherboard, and I just don't have the time to go through the hassle right now. Think I'll wait and get one of the 2GHz+ processors when they come out.
07-08-2001, 08:35 PM
LAST EDITED ON Jul-08-01 AT 07:37PM (EDT)[p]Erm... can anyone tell me how to access the fps counter in X-Plane 5.66 ? My apologies if I am missing something obvious.
Frame rates are so fast they will never be an issue, but I am curious.. ;)
07-27-2001, 09:46 PM
Go to settings, data output. It is one of the first options and will then display on the screen.
08-02-2001, 03:22 PM
You all need to get the latest drivers and opengl versions. Try nvidia.com, 3dfx.com ect. Read the x-plane web site sys requirements.
08-06-2001, 07:16 PM
I know, Xplane sucks! Stick wit the proven microsoft.
08-23-2001, 03:22 PM
your problem is Win2000. I had the same problem. ATI wrote crappy drivers for Win2000.
08-28-2001, 05:12 PM
Agreed. I'm now the fairly proud owner of a GeForce 2 MX400, which is a minor but important improvement over the old ATI. And yes, X-Plane fairly rocks with this card.
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09-30-2001, 07:41 PM
I have a 1.4 bird nesting on a Asus and just ran V603 and it worked great! BUT I am getting V566+ because V6 does not have 800X600 and my eyes cant see the 10X7 even on the 17incher.
Say maybe someone knows how to make V603 run at 800X600 it did say that the min is such but I cant make it so!
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