!!! !!! RTW Race ( PRACTICE STILL GOING ON) Thread 2 !!! !!!

[capn_sonic]

Amazed at the time you folks are putting into this. Love the dedication you have.
Here's a new thread before we go off the end of the planet on the other :-)
Thread 1 is now locked for viewing only.
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Here's the last post on thread 1

Posted By:
John Mueller

ETA KBGB at approx 23:00 UTC
22:58 UTC, Baton is free in KBGB! last minute divert from KPIA because I wasn't sure about the fuel qty (2% left now...)
Have a good flight

John

[Swi_Tzer]

All right then..., I'll fly south. There is also South America to touch :-).

I have the baton, Taking Off from KBGK heding sud... : ZULU 00:04

Pascal

Edit: Ehmm.. KGBG you are right, was wrong with writing, started at the right place.. :-)

[apollosmith]

Now, where are you at? John's post says KBGB, yours says KBGK. The problem is that neither of these airports exist!

Edit: I'm assuming John meant KGBG - Galesburg.

Confused.

Smitty

[Swi_Tzer]

Revised destination: new planing is KRNC.
ETA 40 min

Pascal

[salt_air]

I have the baton,,,leaving KRNCgonna try to make KTPA

[salt_air]

Tailwind at FL220 should make Tampa just fine,,,0456GMT est

[JohnMueller]

OOps, that's a big mistake. Lesson learned: double check the baton drop locations, let's write down ICAO + Name, that way we're sure we mean the right place. I landed on the server + was awaiting reinforcements, but that's kind of hard when you tell them to go somewhere imaginary :).

John

[JohnMueller]

UTC 19:14, I have the baton in KTPA, heading south of course, in my PC21

John

[salt_air]

I've got it and gone,,,,,MKJS-TNCA Montego Bay to Aruba in a P-38,,,,only in flight sim,,,,,,,,later

[salt_air]

Eta to TNCA,,,,2330GMT

[JohnMueller]

Guys, you're flying great! Austin, I hope you're enjoying the stay in Aruba, probably beats the snow we've been getting here..

Everyone: How can we get more pilots flying? I'd love to see some new faces between the legs! It doesn't have to be 2 hours, no problem, it doesn't even have to be online. I know you're out there, just grab the baton for a leg, it's fun, come on, fly along!

John

[TornadoWilkes]

>>How can we get more pilots flying?
This is of course only a practice, however there is significant interest on the other teams and FS.com is coming from behind this year. It would be great to see the team rise from the ashes to take the trophy, all it needs is for one of you to become a great leader, this is not going to happen on its own!!

[ol][li]Advertise in other forums
[li]Post a copy of the expected rules, so those that come here know what they need to do
[li]Ask people to join
[li]Ask people to join
[li]Ask people to join
[li]Did I mention ask people to join?
[li]Email old RTW veterans
[li]Put some passion into it
[li]Believe that you can win
[li]Hold the race in the FS2004 forum if you have to
[li]Put a sticky at the top of each FS.com forum directing them here
[li]Create a warm friendly environment
[li]Get Nels involved
[li]Tell CNN what your doing
[li]Get the Microsoft team to join
[li]Do a deal with a plane designer to do a special team repaint

All of the above and much much more, you cannot let the baton lie dormant.

[xiphanopoulous]

I have the baton at TNCA, heading somewhere east along the coastline.

I'll let you know exactly where I'm headed when im in the air.

-Xiph.

EDIT: I'm airborne, passing 18,000ft going up to FL350, and destination is SYCJ. Now 757nm away, and I'm not getting that great tailwinds, so I may have to divert, but that's what I'm trying for.

EDIT #2: It's going to be close, guys! I can't go any faster without overspeeding, my flight computer shows 1.5 hours to go, and I've had the baton for a little over 25 mins. Eek. 48kts of aid coming directly from the rear, but this is going to be interesting. I really hope that I dont have to divert, because SYCJ is the only lighted airport within 200nm.

[n704fn]

>>I'd love to see some new faces between the legs! It doesn't have to be 2 hours, no problem, it doesn't even have to be online.<<

That's what she said!

sorry, couldn't resist

[xiphanopoulous]

Well, I've thought it over, and I'm going to divert, for several reasons:

1) There is the possibility that I might be making a nighttime blind approach at some point in the race, and an unlighted dirt strip with nothing but an off-field NDB for guidance is pretty much as barren as you can get. So, I can take the opportunity to get used to these kind of things.

2) I'd only be able to make it to SYCJ with six minutes to spare according to the flight computer, and that's at cruise altitude. It would be a nice chance to test out my emergency descent skills, but I could use the blind landing practice more.

So, I'm diverting to SYKM via the KAM NDB. Now 221nm out.

-Xiph.


EDIT: On descent now, 65nm out. Crossing fingers.

EDIT #2: There's this huge ground spire ahead of me. I really hope that this airport isnt the one buried 60000ft below the ground because of an FS bug.... :-(

EDIT #3: Down and safe, though I overran the runway a bit. Screenshot is coming shortly.

EDIT #4: BATON IS FREE at SYKM!!! Now get that thing moving!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v438/miyridian/TNCASYKM.jpg

[JohnMueller]

Hi Xiph
SYKM is ok, the spikes are neat though :). Keeps you awake, huh?
Have a good landing!
John

[xiphanopoulous]

I'm not going to hear the end of these falling asleep jokes, am I? :-)

-Xiph.

[JohnMueller]

I have the baton at SYKM, 10:53 UTC
John

Edit 1: aiming for SBAM, SNPG or SBMQ, depending on the winds (we're heading this direction and crossing to Africa, right? Otherwise: oops!)

[sandman]

I have the baton.

Flight Plan: SBAM to SBPB

UTC Time: 1310

[sandman]

On descent into SBPB.

Estimate arrival in 12 mins

[seehunt]

Is there a route you guys are following with the practice flights ? I see the Baton is free @ SBPB.....is the next destination up to the pilot that picks up the Baton ?

[salt_air]

Sorry fo the delay in response seehunt. Yeah man, go for it!

Get set at SBPB (ready for takeoff), then come back here to post that you have baton (making sure no one else does) and state where you think you'll be going (where you think it should be left for the next pilot and you can make in two hours). After you land safely stop the plane and post that the baton is free. Then go back find your screenie of the flight analysis and add that to your "baton free" post as an edit. That's it. Maybe if you get a chance sometime during the flight you could look ahead and post when you think you'll arrive.

Good Luck!

[Swi_Tzer]

Status report: ~50min to go..., sky is cloudy below me, clear at here at FL240, always 11kts tailwind for now...

[salt_air]

Darn fine screenie Pascal,,,,,,,wish I was there,,,,martini' ok?

[Swi_Tzer]

Landed, baton free at SBJP...

analysis follows soon

[salt_air]

I have the baton,,what say we turn left,,,head for the Gold Coast

Beechcraft Starship,,,pushing the limits of range

SBJP-GVAC FL 320,,,,,,,fingers crossed martinis on me for all at

Amilcar Cabral airport,,,,later,,,much ETA 0430GMT

[salt_air]

Baton is free at SBJP,,,,,,,sim crash ,,no flight analysis,,flight doesn't count,,,,back to South America,,,sorry guys,,,try again tommorrow

[Swi_Tzer]

Hi Salt_air,
Oh.. I am so sorry for you... but heroic attempt :-)!
Another experience here, just on the long leg we have to be shure we have all setup very well. The longer the flight goes, more are the chances something goes bad :-(: be it by simply switching back and forth with sim and other programs or other factors, so we have to take care here... Does the Piaggo make it till Africa? I do not own that ac, but shure it would be a fast crossing :-).

I am with you about moving toward Africa now..., but it is a long hop. There is a small island before though: SBFN, wich is some 250nm into the atlantic from SBJP, wich could be another small step, before heading on the other continent. From there a possible move could be Monrovia, GLRB (Roberts' Intl), some 1450nm far away. As far I can see it seams the shortest one. It means ~3,5 of flight with a fast one. Do not know if the P38 can make it with additional tanks...

Of course every pilots can choose where he wants to fly, these are only some ideas.

See you in the air :-)
Pascal

[JohnMueller]

Ok, I'll give it a try, tanked up Gnoopy's B29, will head to GVSF or further, depending on the time and fuel left :)

John

Taking Baton at SBJP, 09:38 UTC

[salt_air]

The B-29 is a good choice,,,,looked last night at that and a L-1049G, a C-46, and a few others but decided to use the ruling to up the fuel cap in the Starship to 366gals per tank(x2) from 282. The trip from SBJP-GVAC only took about 4hours-20mins and had a very comfortable amount of fuel left(22%) after suffering with as much as a 49kt headwinds and running right on the "barber's pole" for the entire flight at 380+kts/hr GS. Landed ok stopped to post and here came the black screen of death and the "sorry about that" msg from microsoft...$#it!,,da##!,,#e##!, before I could get a screenie of the flight analysis.

Go for it John,,,coffee's on me,,,try to be waiting on ya at GVSF(or where ever).Have a good flight flight. Gonna go load up the update(FS9) I've been avoiding(conflicts with USA Roads) and think I'll give the Duenna a try as well.

[JohnMueller]

ETA 15:30 UTC (in one hour) at GVAC Amilcar Cabrar, Cape Verde :)

Update 15:09 UTC: ETA still 15:30 in GVAC, looking good so far

[salt_air]

I have it at GVAC,,,headed for dry land,,,,GMMH,,,next stop Casablanca?

P-51D Mustang,,,FL240,,,,,gone ETA 1615 GMT @ GMMH

[MacKuen]

Hi Austin,

No wish to disturb you on a fast flight.

Afterwards, though, might you please say more about something you mentioned in the thread above: "decided to use the ruling to up the fuel cap in the Starship to 366gals per tank(x2) from 282".

Just curious about the "ruling". And how did you change the fuel cap in the Starship?

Best wishes,
Mike MacKuen

[salt_air]

Hey Mike,

The only way I know to increase the fuel cap on internal tanks is in the cfg file for the starship. Ruling mentioned 3% of public specs.
Wrong?

[salt_air]

Same prob again,,,another black screen after landing,,,baton is free,,,,but still at GVAC

[sandman]

I have the baton.

Flight Plan: GMMH - LEAS (Asturias, Spain)

UTC Time: 1743

[sandman]

I overstressed the a/c while looking at a forum page. Lost nearly 2 hrs. Baton is back at GMMN

Going to refly the leg.

I have the baton GMMN - LEAS

UTC 1929

[MacKuen]

Hi Austin,

The idea here is that the pilot may not alter the publicly-available existing aircraft in any way. The 3% marker (subject to revision) was to provide a sense of what existing aircraft constitute "reasonably realistic" flight models.

Now, we are all in a heap of trouble if pilots decide to alter their favorite aircraft for Racing purposes. Gosh. :-eek

The overall spirit of the race is that everyone pick an aircraft that they like to fly, one that is reasonably realistic, and then have fun doing the hard stuff--flying in challenging weather, in the darkness, under the pressure of team responsibility, and battling the computer gremlins(!).

Hope this clarification helps.

More on this later....

Best wishes,
Mike MacKuen

[salt_air]

Hi Mike,

Yep, that's a big help, and thanks for being on the ball and quickly making that clear for all of us.

Kind regards,

Austin

[sandman]

ETA LEAS 2120 UTC

Still on track for 2120 ETA

[salt_air]

I have it ,,,headed for EGGP

LEAS-EGGP,,,,Cessna 441,,,FL280

[JohnMueller]

Hi sandman
The "no map available" presumably comes from a missing internet-connection while it was generating the graphic - could that be possible? other than that it looks fine, thanks for taking us back to Europe and GO AUSTIN, BRING THE BATON HOME!
John

PS No need to make a screenshot of the graphic, it's generated and saved directly on you computer. The name + path will be in the text-file shown with the graphic - you can just copy the name+path out of the text and paste it into the attachment-window, you don't even need to go browsing for the file. :)

[salt_air]

Can't make Liverpool guys,,,,going to divert to Fairford,,,will be leaving the baton in EGVA in about 45mins or around 2330GMT

[Twolf]

I see team Flightsim has been flying practice legs for quite awhile; if only I'd known this was where the baton handoffs were going on <L> You guys are doing great !

I did try to join online last weekend to get some practice but ran into a few snags. Thinking now that I may try this in FS9 but it all depends on whether I can get "flyable" FPS out of this 32Mb video card. Anyway, hope to catch up with everyone this coming weekend. I've at least done some legs offline following your route to get used to the quick flightplanning and weather checks. I'm also doing a trend analysis of global winds aloft and convective weather which might give us some decent guidelines in terms of flightplanning when the time comes.

Maybe I can get a ruling on this: I downloaded Mike Stone's Beech Starship for FS9 and it works fine in 2K2. It did require a mod however because the nose gear just plain collapses on taxi or landing, more so on a gravel strip. And it doesn't seem to matter whether you taxi at 10 knots or under 2 knots (weird.) Now I'm no airline pilot but I have flown in real life and I do know how to manage descent speeds and finesse a landing flare; only way to fix this was to tweak the air file under "gear" so the nosewheel's a little more robust. Now I get reasonable damping and everything stays attached. A small adjustment of the roll and yaw authority also corrected a tendancy it had of skidding into turns regardless of bank angle or rudder input. Lastly I had to increase the full flaps friction setting because Mike clearly adjusted this elsewhere to milk a few more knots of airspeed out of her. Before this, full flaps and min. power generated over 100 kts indicated even nose-level, yet the published stall speed for this config was about 35 kts slower. No other changes or adjustments have been (or will be) made. I get an average of about 400-405 kts groundspeed at FL310, although as Austin mentioned, that's flying with the airspeed indicator awfully close to the barber pole; one good CAT encounter and it's back to the start of the leg. Guess we just have to keep an eye on that...

Twolf (Dan)

[salt_air]

Hey Dan,

I assumed that you knew about this forum, when I was corresponding with you on John,s site. My fault, why don't you let me know by private msg here or at John's site what time would be convenient for you this weekend and we'll get on TS and try to work out some these things your having to deal with.

Best,

Austin

[Twolf]

No problem, I could see the practice legs by pulling up the tracker, just didn't know it was being coordinated here.

[apollosmith]

Wow! A little over a week remaining! The practice session has gone great and it looks like the baton is currently at LEAS with probably just 2 hops left to complete our RTW. Here are a few observations, ideas, and questions:

- When posting, be sure to indicate the airport code, airport name, and current time (in UTC). There were a few times when airport codes were entered incorrectly and this caused some confusion. Posting the airport name will clarify any problems. Make sure your posts are accurate. UTC time can be found on the tracker page - http://smithplanet.com/rtw/
- When the baton status changes, change the SUBJECT line of the forum post. This will give allow others to see what's up at a glance, without having to read through all of the posts. When picking up the baton, post a reply to the top-most post to start a new thread.
- Stick to the 2 hour rule. There were a few hops that went over. This is OK in a practice session, but might cost us a lot of time in the race. The only exception to this rule is if there is no airport available for you to divert to that will keep you within the 2 hour rule. In this case, you may go over 2 hours, but only by a little (I don't think 'little' has ever been defined in the rules). For example, when we were crossing the Bering Strait, the closest airport along our flight path was 2 hours and 10 minutes - this is legal.
- Make sure your aircraft is legal. The rules were recently posted here.
- During the race, you must post the 'proof' that the flight was completed before the next leg is completed or BOTH legs are invalidated. Make sure you know how to capture the flight analysis window and post it here. If you fail to do so, we could lose up to four hours of flight time.
- There's been some discussion about how to best coordinate backup pilots and who is going to fly next. I think the best mechanism for this is the multiplayer server, TeamSpeak, and the forum. If we're flying online, it makes discussion very easy, makes the baton handoffs easy, and you have people to help you out. Ultimately, the person who first posts to the forum has the baton, but if we coordinate online, it will make thing run a lot smoother. If you have troubles flying online, at least join TeamSpeak and update those who are. The key to winning this race is not flight speed, but keeping the baton moving at all times.
- If flying online, turn off collisions (but make sure crashes is still on).
- If you want to, please update the baton tracker at http://smithplanet.com/rtw/ This will give us an up-to-date look at what's happening. There are also several tools there that might help, including a flight planner, a flight recommendation tool, world-wide airport database, and real-time weather observations.
- We need to get more pilots involved. We need sticky posts at the top of the main Flightsim.com forums that link to the Multiplayer forum. An RTW FAQ would be great. It could be stickied to the top of this forum. I'd be happy to write one up.

By the way, here's our current status.
http://smithplanet.com/rtw/images/1.gif

Legs flown: 41
Miles flown: 25951.53 nm
Average hop length: 632.96 nm

-Smitty

[AngelFuree]

Hey Smitty, great to see you again this year! That FS Event Manager site you guys have set up is awesome!

BTW, are you gonna be flying the wildcard leg for us this year? lol

Good stuff. =)

http://www.flightsim.com/dcforum/User_files/403fd2305d5c6de3.jpg

[apollosmith]

Hey, I wouldn't miss the race for almost anything. Unfortunately, my sister is getting married that weekend, so I might have to miss the first day or so. :-(

Any feedback you have on the Event Manager site should be posted here. We want to ensure that we're providing tools that will help us win.

Assuming that the wildcard is still in the rules this year, then I'd be happy to fly it.

Smitty

[JohnMueller]

20:15 UTC I've got the baton in LEAS, bringing her a step closer to home :)))

[sandman]

Hi John.
Yes you are correct. I lost my internet connection just after I came to a full stop and posted that the baton was free. Guess I was lucky to complete the flight and get the screen shot of the analysis without any other glitches.

[apollosmith]

I've put together a little FAQ about the race. I know there are quite a few of these about, but I wrote this to be informative for those who have never participated before.

Take a look at http://smithplanet.com/rtw/racefaq.htm

Comments are welcome.

- This FAQ (or some other) should be posted in a sticky at the top of the MP forum. It should probably take the place of the existing 'Official Race Thread', which is quite long and no longer being used.
- The FAQ should be linked to from a sticky at the top of the other major flightsim.com forums.
- The practice race threads could probably be unstickied, as the practice session seems to be all but done.
- Once the race gets going, we're going to need a point person to sticky the race threads to the top of the forum as well as create new threads when the old ones get too long (around 100 messages or so). Who is this person? Austin?

Smitty

[sandman]

E-mailed Matt Smith to clarify the legality of Mike Stone's Beech Starship. His reply follows in quotation marks.

"David-

I need to first and foremost apologize to you. I spoke in error when I quickly confirmed the eligibility of Mike's Starship. The Starship is by type eligible, but some of my advisors have expressed concern over Mike's flight model.

We will discuss exactly what we want to do about this flight model in particular, and others like it, very, very soon, and will get back to you with a decision as quickly as possible. For now, please don't absolutely plan on using the Starship.

I'll update you as events warrant.

Again, sorry for the inconvenience-
Matt"

Best to have a backup aircraft just in case. I was really looking forward to using this plane.x(

[JohnMueller]

Good work Smitty!
One VERY GOOD link is also something from one of the other teams :D (from dcc). I hope they don't mind me posting it: http://www.kazoku.org/xp-38n/dcc/soh-race-helps.html

Does anyone have a bit of time to check through our legs and offer some feedback about the quality, what we did right, what we did wrong? (other than me disabling the GPS-lock while chatting at the espresso-machine)

Thanks guys, you're a great team, THE BEST! LETS GET THAT DANG TROPHY BACK WHERE IT BELONGS!!

John

[apollosmith]

The biggest thing we need to do with the FAQ is recruit. We don't want it too in-depth, as the other threads are filling in the gaps (as will the official rules). I added a few sections to my FAQ. We really need more pilots, especially those that can fly during 'off-peak' hours.

As far as feedback on our practice flights, here's a few things I noticed:
- We went over 2 hours a few times when there were airports closer that could have been landed at. These legs may have been disqualified in the race.
- The 'proof' was not posted a few times. If the proof is not posted by the time the next hop is done, then BOTH hops are invalidated and we will have lost up to 4 hours of flight time.
- We must ensure that the plane we are flying is legal. The P51 racer is not (my bad) and the legality of the Beech Starship is being questioned (because of the flight characteristics). This would have invalidated MANY of our flights.
- We must keep the baton moving at all times. This is the most important key to winning. The practice RTW session has taken us 15 days. To win, we'll have to do it in around 4 days.
- If the wild card is available, we should take it from the northern part of South America to Africa. We spent 4 hops going South and East across South America, when the wildcard leg could have been taken directly from Venezuela to Amilcar Cabral (off the Africa coast). This cost us about 2400 miles. BIG MISTAKE!
- The airports we used in northeast Asia and the Aleutian Islands of Alaska are pretty much the only ones we CAN use. We need to plan so that this section of the race includes UHSS-UHPP-PADK. The only other options are to use the wild card or take the long way around which adds about 2000 miles.
- We made a long arc through Canada and the US, when a straight shot to South America would have saved several hundred miles.
- As a comparison, in last year's race we flew 23,643nm in 44 hops. During the practice session, we flew 26,565nm in 43 hops - almost 3,000 miles more. In short, we need to be more efficient in our planning.
- Download and install the wind guage (file name wawind.zip). Knowing what the winds are doing at altitude can save a lot of fuel and time.

For the most part, I think the practice session went great. It was great to see so many of you flying. The multiplayer server is up and running and I'll be on it most evenings (US time) until the race begins, so get on and join me and we can talk strategy and fly some practice hops.

-Smitty

[JohnMueller]

Hi Smitty

I think that the real test will be, like you said, keeping the baton moving with legal hand-offs. The more pilots, the better. We've got our backup-team of round-the-clock pilots for the race, but more is always better :).

Strangly, on my RTW-Website we just registered User-ID 89 (with about 10 IDs missing, still makes almost 80). Where are you guys in practice? ;) How do we get them / YOU out here? Take a leg, we're still moving! Check your availability, we can use any two hours you've got: http://fs.softplus.net/fsweb

Navigation: Yes, we need to think before we fly, during the race it would be great to have the backup-crew (i.e. pilots not flying the baton but watching anyway) plan a decent flight-plan taking the winds into account. My idea of crossing the US was a) take the jetstream (helped a bit) and b) go through Florida / the islands to reach South-America faster. I agree, the real wild-card would have been better from the first stop in SA, but we'll need a faster plane at any rate (any ideas?)

John

[salt_air]

Reckon I'll take it to EGGP Liverpool.

EGJP-EGGP,,FL180,,Cessna 441,,,,,0430GMT,,ETA,,less than an hour

[JohnMueller]

Per Austins suggestion, I'm heading from the tip of South America, up the islands.

I have the baon in SVGI (Venezualia), 15:43 UTC, taking a heli :), no autopilot, arghhh. We'll see how far I manage...

John

[JohnMueller]

I have the baton in SVGI, 20:28 UTC, just trying for TGPY, Lynx + custom HUD :)

John

[salt_air]

Have the baton in (Point Salines Int'l-Grenada) TGPY headed for TJBQ (Rafael Hernandez-Puerto Rico),,,FL 270,,,,Cessna 441,,,ETA 2345 GMT

[MacKuen]

Hi Austin,

In the Race, the official "Baton Time" is the elapsed time between your "I have the Baton" post and the "Baton is Free" post. The Duenna time is only for interest's sake.

In this case, the time frame is 4:44-6:52 or 2:08. The flight would not be invalid--but it would incur a penalty of 24 minutes to be served before the next pilot can take off. (The penalty is 3*8 minutes or 24 minutes. OK?

In Racing conditions, you would simply say "The Baton is Free" and then post the confirmation later--before the next leg is finished. So some of your 8 minutes here (spent preparing the screenshot) would not be used under Racing Conditions.

Hope this helps.

Best,
Mike

[seehunt]

I Have the Baton at TJBQ. UTC time is 12:26

[seehunt]

The baton is free at MYEF....time UTC 1421

[salt_air]

Hey Mike,

Sure thing, THE answer to a question always helps out. In this case it was not only handled quickly(again), but explained very well. Simple matter of changing priorities after safely landing. Hope I'm not the only one taking notes here.

Appreciate it,

Austin

[sandman]

The baton is free.

Location: SBPB

UTC Time: 1457

Flight Log -- from The RTW-Duenna v.0.600 Rev. 27
-----------------------------------------------------------

Takeoff:
System Time UTC: 07/02/2005 13:12:18
FS Time: 07/02/2005 10:11:07
Location: N2° 04.182' / W50° 51.960'
Airport: SBAM 0.3nm
Valid: VALIDATED

Enroute:
Aircraft: Beech Starship
Max. groundspeed: 407.9 kts
Max. IAS: 330.7 kts
Max. altitude: 26965 ft
Flight aborted: no
Time in overspeed: 10.4 secs.
Error count: 0
Valid: VALIDATED

Landing:
System Time UTC: 07/02/2005 14:57:19
FS Time: 07/02/2005 11:57:00
Location: S2° 53.564' / W41° 43.731'
Airport: SBPB 0.3nm
Valid: VALIDATED

Errors:


Summary:
Direct distance: 624 nm
Flight time: 01:45:01
Baton time: 01:47:44
Average GS: 356.4 kts
Valid: VALIDATED

Validation-Graphic: K:\FS-Addons\RTW-Duenna\OUTPUT\2005-02-07\FlightLog_2005-02-07--22-58-23.JPG


This file was created on 07/02/2005 14:58:48 UTC

[sandman]

The baton is free.

Location: LEAS (Asturias, Spain)

UTC Time: 2121

[Swi_Tzer]

Scheduled destination should be KCHA.

It is night here, clear sky (@ FL210). Have a pushing wind of about 20kts, giving me a Groundspeed of about 236kts... in good company :-)

[Swi_Tzer]

Baton free at KRNC, pic follows :-)

Edit: Analysis

[Swi_Tzer]

Hi there,
Since I see the baton staying longtime here, I'll take it and move east..., will post later a destination :-).

Edit: Ok, heading to SBJP, ~1:10 min to go, 10kts tailwind, FL240... and a GS of ~295kts. Take-off time 20:55GMT, getting dark...

Going back for some drinks... mhhh where are the drinks?

Pascal

[Swi_Tzer]

Thanks Sal_air :-), Oh.. I found some (martini :+) in the back , to enjoy the hole flight!
Had to "wake up* for the NDB approach though :-eek, only ap lights,no papi no ILS.

Great flight, go FSteam!

Pascal

[salt_air]

Baton is free at KTPA

[salt_air]

The baton is free at TNCA,,,Aruba Island

[salt_air]

baton is free at EGVA,,,,,,,,,took too long on this one,,,,guess we're back at LEAS,,,with the baton free there.

[salt_air]

Made it back to EGGP,,,,,Let's do it again,,,,,

Took a little longer ,,,poor vis,,,,,

Suppose we didn't have the "wild card" option,,,,,,,,,

How about we go back to South America and fly up the east coast and across the top??

[JohnMueller]

ETA MKJS Montego Bay aprox 20:55 UTC
Update: 21:01 UTC baton dropped, next please :)

Takeoff:
System Time UTC: 05.02.2005 19:14:49
FS Time: 05.02.2005 14:14:31
Location: N27° 57.862' / W82° 32.539'
Airport: KTPA 0.9nm

Enroute:
Aircraft: PC-21 Test Gear Equipped
Max. groundspeed: 426.2 kts
Max. IAS: 331.9 kts
Max. altitude: 30196 ft
Flight aborted: no
Time in overspeed: 15.6 secs.

Landing:
System Time UTC: 05.02.2005 21:00:30
FS Time: 05.02.2005 18:47:41
Location: N18° 30.030' / W77° 55.218'
Airport: MKJS 0.9nm

Summary:
Direct distance: 622 nm
Flight time: 01:45:41
Baton time: 01:45:58
Average GS: 352.2 kts

[JohnMueller]

Ok, heading to SBAM, hope I've landed on enough dirt-strips in the last couple of days :), my P38 needs a good washing. Good thing the Duenna is running, I've had 2 scenery resets (with flight analysis resets :() on this flight already...

ETA 12:45 UTC in SBAM (Amapa, Brazil).
12:48 UTC baton dropped in SBAM, next!

[JohnMueller]

Status update: 11:19 UTC, still 1100nm out of GVSF, I managed a big mistake, was playing with the panel, went back, got a coffee, returned after some gossip with the stewardess (just talk) only to find my Autopilot not locked on NAV(GPS) :(. Oooops!

It still says 3:45 on the ETE. I've never tried a long hop like this, looking back I think that possibly the P38 would make it (with the external tanks), the B29 (not fully loaded on start), still has a range of over 3000nm left :).

We should try a few other planes to see how far they go, Avantis, Starships, etc. Keep in mind the ruling on the expanded fuel capacity.

John, (currently checking the panel, back for another round of coffee with "just talk", can somebody fetch me if something goes wrong?)

[JohnMueller]

15:25 UTC Baton is free in GVAC, actually, I managed 3 landings in one final :). How many frequent-flyer miles does that get me?

Here's the info:
Flight Log -- from The RTW-Duenna v.0.600 Rev. 27
-----------------------------------------------------------

Takeoff:
System Time UTC: 08.02.2005 09:40:47
FS Time: 08.02.2005 07:40:44
Location: S7° 09.315' / W34° 56.634'
Airport: SBJP 2.2nm
Valid: VALIDATED

Enroute:
Aircraft: B-29B Superfortress - 501st BG
Max. groundspeed: 351.0 kts
Max. IAS: 287.7 kts
Max. altitude: 30020 ft
Flight aborted: no
Time in overspeed: 0.0 secs.
Error count: 0
Valid: VALIDATED

Landing:
System Time UTC: 08.02.2005 15:25:10
FS Time: 08.02.2005 12:44:48
Location: N16° 44.296' / W22° 56.937'
Airport: GVAC 2.2nm
Valid: VALIDATED

Errors:


Summary:
Direct distance: 1601 nm
Flight time: 05:44:23
Baton time: 05:44:59
Average GS: 278.4 kts
Valid: VALIDATED

Validation-Graphic:

This file was created on 08.02.2005 15:25:28 UTC

[JohnMueller]

I've got the PC21 and will go down in EGJB, much before my time is up, but I need to get some real-life work done before tomorrow :).

An idea for the smallisch hop back to EGGP (and then back over the atlantic, right?): How about a helicopter? (hey, why's everybody running away? :D :D)

ETA in EGJB Guernsey (I need to deposit some of my bags of money I'm dragging home, I WISH) is currently 21:30 UTC.

Crazy wind at the moment, changing from 50kts head to tailwind, constantly toggleing my overspeed.. Hope it holds together :).

EDIT:
BATON IS FREE AT EGJB Guernsey, 21:32 UTC. what a crazy landing, what crazy wind, my heart's up to 200bpm. Thanks for sticking together PC21 :).

[JohnMueller]

16:10 UTC, sorry guys, crashed in TGPY.. :( I'll have to practice a bit more with that Lynx :), broke her up on a fast flyby (oops)

John

[seehunt]

Doing a test to see if my route leg screenshot shows up.

[salt_air]

Baton is free in TJBQ,,,,,need a ruling on this one,,,,,when does the duenna stop timing the baton ,,,below a certain GS or when you punch the stop button. Don't know if I waited too long to punch (11 secs) or had the baton too long. John?

[JohnMueller]

20:59 UTC Baton is free in TGPY, my hands are shaking from full manual flight, good landing, thanks to my HUD (got it from hovercontrol.com).
John