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petermcleland
10-11-2004, 08:21 PM
Here is what it looks like after the upgrade:-

http://forum.fsscreenshots.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=2&topic_id=5076&mode=full&page

spitfire222
10-11-2004, 08:39 PM
Great shots Peter, that area looks beautiful. :-) Probably the most realistic scenery I've seen to date, may I ask where you got it? Thanks! :-)

Best regards,
Vincent
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petermcleland
10-11-2004, 08:56 PM
Vincent,

I got it here:-

http://www.simflight.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=5172

However, it is VERY expensive :-(

spitfire222
10-11-2004, 09:05 PM
Wow!! That is indeed very expensive! Too bad, it looks incredibly real. :-)

Best regards,
Vincent
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petermcleland
10-11-2004, 09:24 PM
This type of scenery is fun to fly over but it is only a novelty really. Photo scenery has no seasons, no real shadows and no autogen. It is good from altitude but disappointing to land on. I go there occasionally but I really prefer scenery that you can get down into. I have yet to install a proper airport into Switzerland Professional...the ones in it are a bit basic.

spitfire222
10-11-2004, 09:34 PM
Well, ultimately, would you thinks it $130 well spent? Its a shame that scenery like this has such disadvantages compared to its apparent advantage of ultimate reality! :-roll I agree, I prefer scenery with small precise details, though terrain mesh is also lovely to fly over. :-)

Best regards,
Vincent
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doering1
10-11-2004, 09:51 PM
Hi Peter!
I agree with you 100%. Nothing beats that photorealistic scenery from a good altitude. Problem is though, as you indicate, you have to land and the realism turns to a blurr.

petermcleland
10-12-2004, 05:53 AM
>Well, ultimately, would you thinks it $130 well spent? Its a
>shame that scenery like this has such disadvantages compared
>to its apparent advantage of ultimate reality!

Vincent,

The scenery is magnificent to fly over at a reasonable altitude. However, that is rather limiting. It is not really very nice from very high altitude either, as the edges of the mesh always seem to be in sight...So crossing it at 40,000 feet in my Hunter was NOT the nice experience that I expected.

I would have to say, in answer to your question, no I do not consider it $130 well spent as it does not have enough attraction to draw me there frequently. I hardly ever go there. I spend most of my flying time in Georender scenery or my own Alaskan Base. I find Autogen and the Seasons major parts of Flight Simulator and if they are not there, I miss them.

JimmiG
10-12-2004, 06:06 AM
I also noticed an improvement after installing the patch (see my comparison shots posted recently).

I don't recommend Switzerland Pro if you just want to "try" a photoreal scenery since it's so expensive. Get one volume of Megascenery, VFR England+Wales or Real Germany instead. If you like what you see, you can consider spending the money for Switzerland Pro. It comes down to personal preference and how important autogen is to you. Just remember that there's nothing more accurate than photoreal sceneries - landclass sceneries always leave out some detail - like towns of 10.000 people for example :) Also, photoreal sceneries look more "natural" - no "checkerboard" texture tiles, pointy vector roads, streams that run uphill or any other "weirdness" that occours with generic scenery.

Also, remember that you can use the Autogen annotation tool to add buldings and trees. It's tedious but for populating areas around airports it works fine.

BTW, photoreal sceneries *do* have real shadows. Try viewing the same scene at 12.00pm and 7.00pm - you will notice the shadows.

Zenon
10-12-2004, 06:46 AM
Awesome! Those pictures are great!
Actually the best screens I've ever seen on this forum!!!

I really hope that a photoreal scenery that covers the main parts of Sweden will be realesed. It would be awesome.

petermcleland
10-12-2004, 07:41 AM
>Hi Peter!
>I agree with you 100%. Nothing beats that photorealistic
>scenery from a good altitude. Problem is though, as you
>indicate, you have to land and the realism turns to a blurr.

That is so Laurie...but I have not yet tried a fully detailed airport with Autogen objects placed around as JimmyG suggests above. I can envisage this assisting greatly in the landing experience in Photo scenery.

I have a rather pleasing "VFR" type scenery called "Scenery Germany 1" and I find this much more exciting to fly over. It is built with Landclass and Autogen and Mesh. Here are some shots that I took there some time ago:-

http://forum.fsscreenshots.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=2&topic_id=4310&mode=full&page

Caracal
10-12-2004, 08:22 AM
wow,those are pretty much some of the most realistic FS9 shots I've seen in a while, really a shame that scenery is so expensive

Erick_Cantu
10-12-2004, 08:58 AM
Plus, that cash in my case could be better spent on more important things like upgrading my computer so it can run FS at a reasonable pace...

;)

Back on topic...

Great shots Peter! The scenery does indeed look good from the altitudes and angles you shot it from. I think we can all hope for a day when all of the FS world will come with scenery like that - albeit better at low altitude - by default.

By the by: I don't recall if I ever sent the updated 737-400 to you for testing. Would you still be interested? ;)

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Pol
10-12-2004, 10:07 AM
:-eek:-eek:-eek:-eek:-eek:-eek...
Howly cow, the most realistic shots I have ever seen!!!

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swva3368
10-12-2004, 10:49 AM
Yes, nice looking scenery, but unfortunately here in the good ole USA, that would set me back $160, dont know why they make these add-ons so expensive, is it really worth it to the consumer?

JimmiG
10-12-2004, 11:03 AM
PC Aviator sells the scenery for $130. You can blame Endoxon (provider of the source data) for the high price. Because the source images were so expensive they need to sell the scenery at this price level to make any money.

petermcleland
10-12-2004, 11:07 AM
>
>By the by: I don't recall if I ever sent the updated 737-400
>to you for testing. Would you still be interested? ;)
>
Yes, of course Erick...please do :-)

uk_guy_bry
10-12-2004, 03:52 PM
The VFR series for England/Wales is probably the best overall. Not just that its sold in parts so you only have to get the ones you want, but Gary Summons UK2000 series are completely compatible with them. Even comes with a different install option for VFR Photoscenery users. Which are pretty much perfect for the job.

Here's a fun one for comparison :) A photo I took in July and roughly the same view in FS on approach to Heathrow 24R. And then one to show Gary's fantastic Heathrow Pro.

http://www.flightsim.com/dcforum/User_files/416c33de2b89c5ec.jpg http://www.flightsim.com/dcforum/User_files/416c34ea2c7841fb.jpg
Looks like there's been some construction work since the Millenium Map was finished :-lol

http://www.flightsim.com/dcforum/User_files/416c34512c1bc11d.jpg

http://www.flightsim.com/dcforum/User_files/416c34982c597fbe.jpg

Visual Flight should be releasing a full London scenery next month to make the Heathrow approaches even better.

LeoAllan
10-12-2004, 05:01 PM
Great shots Peter, i love VFR sceneries but i do agree with your faults for it, it would be nice to have autogen that matched the scenery.

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JimmiG
10-12-2004, 05:01 PM
Wow - quite hard to tell the first pics apart :)

The VFR Scenery coupled with the VFR Terrain is probably the most advanced scenery you can get for FS at this time.

petermcleland
10-13-2004, 06:01 AM
>
>Here's a fun one for comparison :) A photo I took in July
>and roughly the same view in FS on approach to Heathrow 24R.
>

You obviously went to a lot of trouble to get the comparison picture in FS...A first class job...Excellent shots and worth saving to show people what can be done :-)