View Full Version : Ariane737-900NG FIRST POST
07-14-2004, 01:28 AM
Incredible shots! Very detailed 739 and I like that pushback truck! :o :D
07-14-2004, 01:28 AM
Steve , I am impressed with your shots Buddy! Where can I get this plane at - it looks great!!!:-eek
07-14-2004, 01:30 AM
The model looks about average nowadays, though I've never flown it.
I've heard the sounds and they're terrible. Sound nothing like a CFM56-7 at all.
But nice shots!
07-14-2004, 01:32 AM
well i like it.
Mike- its $49.95 over at Arianes website. Heres the link. www.arianedesign.com
07-14-2004, 01:32 AM
Mike you can get it here : http://www.arianedesign.com/
For £49.95. Ouch.
07-14-2004, 04:01 AM
Superb shots! :D:D:D
I cant decide whether to buy this, I would have really liked to have seen them do a nice older 737, like a 200? Or even a plane which they have not done before like a 757 (as we really need an amazing payware one of those)
Do you have any shots of the new VC?
07-14-2004, 05:30 AM
Why on earth would you need a payware-anything?
Anyway, they did a nice job. Price may drop, but I can't really say. Anyway, don't use so much flap for takeoff! 5 degrees is more than enough, and start retracting the minute you hit 180 knots.
07-14-2004, 06:05 AM
Finally we see one happy customer
Can you please post some panel shots and wing views
07-14-2004, 06:58 AM
Yep - that does look odd, and not what one whould expect from a payware model. But it looks like the engines are in reverse operation which may explain this too. Overall I would say that there are better options out there, both in the payware, and soon freeware as well - IMO that is.
Great shots though.
07-14-2004, 08:51 AM
If I made mistakes like that, I would never hear the end of it (the real reversers cowls, by the way, are nearly flush with the grilles, and the gap is nowhere near that big). Odd that freeware is held to higher standards that payware, isn't it? And few people will bother criticizing payware, insisting that, because they paid for it, it's bette than freeware. It's...annoying. I actually have to do a better job if I want to offer it for free.
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07-14-2004, 09:20 AM
50 Euros??? That's over 80 bucks Canadian!!! :-eek
Holy smokes... I'll wait for the Dreamfleet 737-200.
Looks nice, but I'm not really an NG fan. Especially the -900. Way too long, it looks goofy to me.
And where's the 2D panel for 50 bucks???
07-14-2004, 09:25 AM
Nice shots...but honestly i believe that developer is going too far regarding the prices!:-eek...thats 49.95 sterling pounds, just for the 739 in Alaska livery..736 for example, 12.95 with a single livery!, 12.95 each one of the remaining birds with different liveries..well, people buys whatever they wanna buy and i hope enjoy their purchase, but to me this is outrageous..and that painting mistake in the Alaska livery is horrendous...im a repainter myself, and sometimes i've had a really hard time making two lines match at least reasonably well:-roll, and when this is not possible because of my limited skills, i simply wont upload, and is all freeware:D...just my opinion here...and as i saud before, hope you enjoy the 737 NG!:D
07-14-2004, 09:42 AM
£12.95 for a livery?, dear, dear, they can't even get the stars and stripes right on one side of the livery.
I certainly hope the panel is better than the externals and the paint's
07-14-2004, 01:44 PM
Nice shots, helpful post! Could you please be so kind to post some panel screens? Thx!
07-14-2004, 02:02 PM
£50 = €75 = $92US = $122CAD
Yup, a tad pricey for a single model (the 737-900 only) and no 2D panel
07-14-2004, 02:53 PM
Give me a shout via e mail, there are a few things I've been wanting to ask you.
Clayton T. Dopke (Clay)
Major, USAF (retired)
07-14-2004, 02:58 PM
Mark- What I would love to see is a payware 777. That wold be awesome.
Adam-I had full flaps, because of the shot before it. I was trying to show you guys a dirty configuration, the detail and all. Forgot to retract the flaps with the spoilers.
Cap-the cap is probably a Normals error. Either they forgot to intrude the reverse cowling or they just didnt apply any flips normals. But I guarantee you dont know what im talking about.
Thanks all for the comments. ILL HAVE INTERIOR 2D PANEL, VC, CABIN, AND WING VIEW SHOTS LATER ON.
07-14-2004, 04:10 PM
I guess I'm just crazy, but what I'd like to see is a free 757 and a free 777. :-roll
07-14-2004, 04:17 PM
I concur that the -900 proves that "longer is not necessarily better". Too goofy for my tastes.
I wish they had done a super update of the -300 series with VC, heat effects, icing effects, etc... Maybe it's just my age, but I can not get into planes that take the controls away from you and fly themselves. Programmable airplanes - blech!
Still, very nice pics, Steve.
07-14-2004, 05:35 PM
Ooh, crisp, excellent! :-eek:9
07-14-2004, 05:44 PM
:-lol @ Adam.
Yeah, if I don't have to pay for it all the better. I only buy from certain developers now since I've had bad experiences with certain Airbus' and DeHavillands.
Anything from Dreamfleet is gold. And the FFS RV-7 is great. One of my favs!
But still, when we get stuff like the Airhead Decathalon, the Maule, the POSKY, and all the SGA/FFX/Kittyhawk stuff for free, I wouldn't spend my money on stuff I can get for free.
07-14-2004, 06:17 PM
Is that so my friend?, well seeing as I am a 3D modeller by trade, I know all about normals, and how simple it is to filp them so the polygons are not invisible, it is something that should not be evedent in a £50 payware package
07-14-2004, 07:00 PM
"I guess I'm just crazy, but what I'd like to see is a free 757 and a free 777"
Well I think POSky has the 757 down, but I'm with you when it comes to a FS2004 777. Just my 2¢ but $92.00 is definately excessive. I could triple my RAM for that amount.
07-14-2004, 07:28 PM
This is true. The model is very faultly. I have to admit though, Ariane is very expensive: 12 bucks for alivery, they dont make public paint kits, 50 for this aircraft, it doesnt h ave a 2d panel, and its 10 dollars if you loose your ID. Seems they want money for EVERYTHING.
07-14-2004, 08:08 PM
"If I made mistakes like that, I would never hear the end of it (the real reversers cowls, by the way, are nearly flush with the grilles, and the gap is nowhere near that big). Odd that freeware is held to higher standards that payware, isn't it? And few people will bother criticizing payware, insisting that, because they paid for it, it's bette than freeware. It's...annoying. I actually have to do a better job if I want to offer it for free."
At first these remarks hit me as being a little harsh but, after going back through the post & thinking about it some, this simmer finds himself mostly agreeing with him. Where I differ is the suggestion that freeware is held to a higher standard than payware, which I'm sure that it seems that way to him, being a first-class freeware developer ... but charge this much for payware & it had better be mighty acurate all of the way around IMO.
There are several cases of my having purchased payware that have been deleted from my system without complaint to anyone, but if I paid this much then you may be sure that this simpilot would voice my feelings far & wide.
In all fairness, overall the model is nice to look at (especially if one is not aware of the visual flaws) & am confident that it is indeed a joy to fly ... but I'll spend that $92 American on 3 or 4 top-shelf FS addons & have enough leftover for a great lunch out. And while my lunch is digesting I may even take a pleasure flight in one of Erick's great 737s.
Nice screenshots! :)
07-14-2004, 08:22 PM
Is that a tone of regret I hear?
07-14-2004, 09:25 PM
It has nothing to do with normals.
They simply modelled the grilles and rest of that area incorrectly, as they did on all their other 737s. The grilles and everything else inside that duct should be snug against the reverser sleeve.
07-15-2004, 11:41 AM
>well i like it.
>Mike- its $49.95 over at Arianes website. Heres the link.
It's really 49.95 GBP (Brtish pounds), which translates into what will amount as sticker shock when you get that Visa bill. Unless you are British, in which case you are already used to that. :)
If you are American, you'll see 94.55 USD on that credit card statement, Canadian, 122.55 CAD, and if you happen to be Zambian, you better sit down....
You just spent 440,152.48 ZMK (Zambian Kwachas) on one plane! :-lol
I have to join the ranks and say that if I had to pay that much for one plane and one livery, it better be perfect...no exceptions, no excuses. This is in light of the fact there are other excellent payware 737's out there, at a lot less than that.
Now, if it were to be proven that this bird had a fully functioning FMC coupled with a great MCP interface, FDE and air file, that may be a consideration to look at....but PMDGs is very well done, esp. for its price, compared to what Ariane is charging.
I can tell you right now that all that eye-candy will get old, and the only lasting features that will keep you flying this bird are what I mentioned above...just ask all the nuts who keep fs2002 on thier machines for the sole purpose of flying the 767PIC panel, or the kooks who go thru great lengths to make the Aerowinx 747 panel (a dos-based program) work with FS2002/4 outside views. ;)
Of course, these are my opinions, so you and others are free to disagree. I sincerely hope the plane works out ok for you and you get much enjoyment from her....but take a look at the refund policy and make sure you fully test all the things you expect her to do before it expires. It would be a shame to have such a large part of a person's flightsim budget wasted on a plane that they don't fly. I know I have a few of those in my inventory. :(
07-15-2004, 05:26 PM
Ryan, yes that is a tone of regret. After reading the replies, I see what you guys mean. Oh well.
Erick, your the pro, ill go by what you say.
03-18-2005, 09:51 AM
I think im the first one to post this brand new bird. Im in love with it. Good FPS no matter what view, awesome flight dynamics, AMAZING sound set, and cool efects (my favorite is the red and green illumination on the ground under the wingtip lights). have a look. Ill post some interior shots early in the morning tomorow. Have a good night everyone. Oh, and exuse the bouncing on the runway line-up, I installed a hydraulic system ;-)
03-18-2005, 09:51 AM
Can anyone tell me what on earth the ringed errors are all about?
At £50, I would have expected to not be able to see through the engine cowling, and have a decently aligned paint.
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