View Full Version : Sick Joke
10-13-2001, 10:39 PM
I am writing this as I think that though flightsim.com persists in its retrograde policies of regulating downloads, it can be considered nothing but a sick joke perpetrated on simmers like me who are stuck with nothing more than archaic PSTN connections, to post for downloads the new Netherlands Scenery file 'nl2000v2.zip' at over 60 MB.
I am saddened to see that no one else seems to take this issue up with Nels, et. al. except me.
Only yesterday I have wasted almost 4 hours of phone charges when the 7 MB+ file (gl747p52.zip) was unable to be completed after being downloaded 80-90% twice.
May I look for some support on this from others similarly affected?
10-13-2001, 11:17 PM
Well, good files are usually large. It's unfortunate that you have a slow connection, but I don't. Therefore, I think that it is unfair of you to gripe about the size of files I believe that your concerns will fall on deaf ears, but if they did not (hypothetically) you would be unfairly limiting the rest of us. I'm sorry that you have a slow connection... but it's not my problem.
No Kitty, Bad Kitty!
Should the file not be made available to those who can easily download such files simply because you can not?
Is that not a sick joke in reverse?
I have dialup and am in your shoes... but I don't begrudge those who have the means to get such files.
P.S. Although I have dialup, I have (very recently) downloaded such files (61 megs to be exact)... if you have programs such as DAP (download accellerator plus) which offers "resume", then such files are possible.
10-13-2001, 11:38 PM
Have you considered using a Download Manager, like GoZilla! ? With this utility, if you lose the connection, it will frequently be able to pick up where it left off. Details can be found here:
Alternatively, if you know someone with a fast connection (like the ADSL line I have at work) they could write it to CD-R and post it to you. I intend to download it in this way when I get into work on Monday, so if you're interested, drop me a line at my e-mail address.
I've found that using GoZilla!, as long as I've logged onto flightsim.com to start the download, I don't have any problems.
As I'm not aware of many people having this type of problem, I think this is probably why Nels feels no need to do anything.
10-13-2001, 11:43 PM
I guess that is unfortunate for you, and you will have to decide whether or not it is worth the time it takes. I d/l that file in 3 minutes, 50 seconds with my cable modem, but have yet to install it. There are other large files available, and I've seen no one complain about them. The DF737 is one, at 45 megs., and the very well known DC3/R4D packages at 23+ megs, are others.
I guess you should feel fortunate that this file is for fs2k, because as I understand it, some of the necessary patches for fly2 are 100 megs, and more. That, apparently, would be totally unable for you to do.
From what I've read elsewhere, this Netherlands scenery will be broken down into smaller file sizes, which should then make it work for you.
10-14-2001, 01:29 AM
The size of the file is clearly `advertised` on the download pages. You are not suckered into downloading the file.
Flightsim CANNOT CHANGE the size of the file.
You CAN CHANGE the method of download either by purchasing a faster connection, or by using a download manager. The Netherlans team website advises this.
Just what do you expect the site to do? Not upload the file?
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10-14-2001, 02:40 AM
were thinking about is this: www.grc.com
Lots of good info there about spyware, and firewalls.
I think the above repliers (replyees? :)) are correct in:
1) Not putting up such great pieces of work for those who CAN download it is an even 'sicker joke'
2) FlightSim.com does display the file size; don't download the file if you so wish!
3) Get better software. With the very good DAP available for free (www.downloadaccelerator.com), I don't think you should have a problem (if you are desperate enough!) to do 5 MB daily for 12 days!
It was a long time ago I had it... but I now use DAP (Download Accellerator Plus)... it seems to do what it's supposed to.
LOL... I made number one on your list.... kill the fatted calf... I have come home!....
I'm so happy that version 2 of this terrific scenery is out. I love the work that this amazing volunteer effort has done in the past and if the screenshots are anything to go by v2 will be another special treat. It's not a sick joke. This scenery contains a massive amount of detail and it's worth it.
10-14-2001, 12:04 PM
Why? Have you wasted all of your inheritance on fast connections? :)
No Kitty, Bad Kitty!
10-14-2001, 01:46 PM
How old are you? There was a time when it took hours to do anything with 'em new-fangled 14.4 modems.
Humanity's (barely) legal alien
10-14-2001, 08:45 PM
>'em new-fangled 14.4 modems.
What're you talking about? There's something new? I'm still using my trusty 2400 baud modem on comm 2, it works good when I call the BBS's for files!
My good old state-of-the-art 386 33MHz is still flying FS98 really well and I'm in my hut shouting out, "There'll never be anything better than Flight Sim 98!"
Not to digress to one of Michelle's old rants. :)
Anyway, as someone here pointed out earlier, if you're having problems and you don't want to use a download manager, write me and I'll d/l on cable, cut to CD-R and sent it to you, (if you pay for shipping).
10-15-2001, 12:18 AM
All u guys dont seem to understand or try to understand the problem.
I definetly do not believe that large files should not be posted. What I am stating is the policy of Flightsim.com in not supporting resumed downloads (I have used Get Right from day one) the way they were doing almost a year ago.
This method is still supported by umpteen other sites. In fact I hv successfully downloaded and installed the DF737 with over 80 MB size using Get Right but spread over a week. I have also started downloading the Netherlands scenery from another site (have finished 15MB yesterday) and will continue today.
Such a method of downloading is not supported by flightsim.com and hence I stand by my comment of this being a 'Sick Joke'
hmm...my unregistered DAP always resumes for me!
10-15-2001, 02:40 PM
Heh mine too... I think there's an error in his configuration:
Error 455: Inadequate User Error - Please replace, then press any key to continue.
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